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A Clarifying Vote On The Voting Rights Bill

Discussion in 'American Politics' started by mark46, Jun 23, 2021.

  1. mark46

    mark46 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    McConnell words weren't enough. Now the vote has made the position of Republicans clear. Ten Republicans will not vote for discussion of a voting rights bill.

    For me, this is a very good thing indeed. Manchin was allowed free reign, with little interference from the White House. Manchin came up with a compromise which he was sure that some Republicans would support once discussion began. The Republicans slammed the door. Consider how much WORSE the situation would be if 7 Republicans voted with the Democrats.

    The Manchin Bill can pass only if Manchin goes along with a rule change that exempts this bill from the filibuster. I expect that this will be decided one way or the other in August.
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    There should be another couple of clarifying votes soon, perhaps this week, perhaps in August: on infrastructure and on criminal justice.
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    MY HOPE
    1) The Manchin Voting Rights Bill will become law.
    2) A bridges and roads infrastructure bill will become law. (is a bridge falling in DC enough of a sign for Congress?)
    3) The Senate's criminal justice bill will pass (with several no votes from Progressives).

    AND THEN,
    nothing until the 2022 election other than appointments and budget/debt compromises.
     
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  2. wing2000

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    Manchin could not find one good Republican, much less ten, to support a procedural vote to open floor discussion in the US Senate.

    This is the state of the "word's most deliberative body"
     
  3. wing2000

    wing2000 E pluribus unum Supporter

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    Bi-Partisanship lives for now.....we'll see the group of twenty Senators can round up 60 votes for the infrastructure bill agreement that was reached yesterday with the White House.
     
  4. hislegacy

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    Note: the only way for the bill to pass is to change the rules in favor of the ruling party, who cannot garner enough votes.

    That filibuster used by the Democrats 330 times in one year to stop Republican Bills

    Democrats used filibuster 327 times, compared to only once by GOP in 2020: Report

    President Joe Biden has been increasingly critical of the Senate filibuster, calling it a Jim Crow relic and saying it has been widely abused despite Democrats using it over 300 times in 2020, compared to once by Republicans.

    “After @POTUS @JoeBiden denounced the rampant abuse of the filibuster last year, we did some digging,” Fox News anchor John Roberts tweeted Friday. “Republicans used it once. Democrats used it 327 times.”
    Evidently it is only Jim Crow when it does not benefit the Democrats.
     
  5. mark46

    mark46 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    The difficult negotiations are, as they have always been, with Democrats. Manchin and the moderates support this bill. Progressives are now the issue. Some are saying that they won't sign unless that rest of the SIX TRILLION is passed first as a reconciliation bill.

    I believe that Manchin will vote for a filibuster exception to pass his VOting Rights bill, with some Republican votes.

    And he will also MIGHT vote for a small reconciliation bill for progressive "infrastructure".
     
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