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[Mr. M]

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[Citizen of the Kingdom]

Romans 2:28
28 For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, neither that circumcision which is outward in flesh;

Romans 2:29
29 but he is a Jew who is so inwardly; and circumcision, of the heart, in spirit, not in letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

Romans 15:8
8 For I say that Jesus Christ became a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises of the fathers;

Philippians 3:3
3 For we are the circumcision, who worship by the Spirit of God, and boast in Christ Jesus, and do not trust in flesh.

Colossians 2:11
11 in whom also ye have been circumcised with circumcision not done by hand, in the putting off of the body of the flesh, in the circumcision of the Christ;

Colossians 3:11
11 wherein there is not Greek and Jew, circumcision and uncircumcision, barbarian, Scythian, bondman, freeman; but Christ is everything, and in all.

Acts 10:45
45 And the faithful of the circumcision were astonished, as many as came with Peter, that upon the nations also the gift of the Holy Spirit was poured out:

Acts 11:2
2 and when Peter went up to Jerusalem, they of the circumcision contended with him,

Galatians 2:9
9 and recognising the grace given to me, James and Cephas and John, who were conspicuous as being pillars, gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship, that we should go to the nations, and they to the circumcision;

Ephesians 2:11
11 Wherefore remember that ye, once nations in the flesh, who are called uncircumcision by that called circumcision in the flesh done with the hand;

Colossians 4:11
11 and Jesus called Justus, who are of the circumcision. These are the only fellow-workers for the kingdom of God who have been a consolation to me.

Titus 1:10
10 For there are many and disorderly vain speakers and deceivers of people’s minds, specially those of the circumcision

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Exodus 12:48. And when a stranger dwells with you and wants to keep the Passover to the Lord, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it; and he shall be as a native of the land. For no uncircumcised person shall eat it.

So in the first century assemblies, were those who did not have a circumcised heart permitted to remain in the set apart assemblies, meetings of Ekklesia ?
What were the restrictions, if any, noted in God's Directions ?

Who could circumcise their heart so they could join in with the believers ?

 

[AbbaLove]

So in the first century assemblies, were those who did not have a circumcised heart permitted to remain in the set apart assemblies, meetings of Ekklesia ?
What were the restrictions, if any, noted in God's Directions ?

Who could circumcise their heart so they could join in with the believers ?

Deuteronomy 30:6
“Moreover, the Lord your God will circumcise your heart and the heart of your descendants, to love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul, in order that you may live.”

Leviticus 26:40-42
“If they confess their iniquity and the iniquity of their forefathers, in their unfaithfulness which they committed against Me, and also in their acting with hostility against Me—
I also was acting with hostility against them, to bring them into the land of their enemies—or if their uncircumcised heart becomes humbled so that they then make amends for their iniquity,
Then I will remember My covenant with Jacob, and I will remember also My covenant with Isaac, and My covenant with Abraham as well, and I will remember the land.”

Colossians 2:8-9, 11-14
For in Him all the fulness of Deity dwells in bodily form.
And in Him you were also circumcised with a circumcision made without hands, in the removal of the body of the flesh by the circumcision of Messiah.
Having been buried with Him in baptism (of the Spirit), in which you were also raised up with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead.
And when you were dead in your transgressions and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He made you alive together with Him, having forgiven us all our transgressions.
Having cancelled out the certificate of debt consisting of decrees against us and which was hostile to us; and He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.”

 

[Mr. M]

The Holy Spirit, who convicts the heart of sin, righteousness and judgment. John 16.
For the Lord is The Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 2 Co 3.
Truly, you must be born from above. John 3:7.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

In other words, it is Yahweh's Doing - to be born by the Will of the Father, not by the will (or work) of man, not even of one's self ....

 

[Mr. M]

Matthew 11:27. All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him. (Doctrine of Christ).

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Matthew 11:27. All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him. (Doctrine of Christ).

(who started calling it a "Doctrine" ? )

 

[AbbaLove]

(who started calling it a "Doctrine" ? )

Probably theologians as if only a PhD in Theology enables one to correctly interpret scripture and then go so far as to refer to their theological interpretation as a "Doctrine".

Pharisees still exist today in Christendom with their man-made "Doctrines"

 

[Mr. M]

John.
2 John 1:9. Whoever goes forward and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son.
Compare to Matthew 11:27; John 5:19-30.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Compare to Matthew 11:27; John 5:19-30.

Print out the texts/Scripture as you did for 2 John 1:9
(the references do not render on some screens, especially cell phones)

2 John 1:9. Whoever goes forward and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son.

 

[Mr. M]

Matthew 11:27 was already just posted, it is what you replied to, as to John 5, well okay...
Honor the Father and the Son
16 For this reason the Jews and sought to kill Him, because He had done these things on the Sabbath. 17 But Jesus answered them, “My Father has been working until now, and I have been working.” 18 Therefore the Jews sought all the more to kill Him, because He not only broke the Sabbath, but also said that God was His Father, making Himself equal with God. 19 Then Jesus answered and said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of Himself, but what He sees the Father do; for whatever He does, the Son also does in like manner. 20 the Father loves the Son, and shows Him all things that He Himself does; and He will show Him greater works than these, that you may marvel. 21 For as the Father raises the dead and gives life to them, even so the Son gives life to whom He will. 22 For the Father judges no one, but has committed all judgment to the Son, 23 that all should honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him.

Life and Judgment Are Through the Son
24 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life. 25 Most assuredly, I say to you, the hour is coming, and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God; and those who hear will live. 26 For as the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted the Son to have life in Himself, 27 and has given Him authority to execute judgment also, because He is the Son of Man. 28 Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice and come forth—those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation. 30 I can of Myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is righteous, because I do not seek My own will but the will of the Father who sent Me.

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

Print out the texts/Scripture as you did for 2 John 1:9
(the references do not render on some screens, especially cell phones)

Wow, someone’s demanding! Do your own homework. Geesk

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Wow, someone’s demanding! Do your own homework. Geesk

non-sequitur

 

[Mr. M]

Please stay on topic. Doctrine of Christ?

 

[Soyeong]

The Lord gave Moses and Aaron further instructions in regard to strangers and servants desiring to keep the Passover, that all males must be circumcised. Circumcision was a hot topic in the early church with regard to expectations placed upon Gentile believers.

Exodus 12:48. And when a stranger dwells with you and wants to keep the Passover to the Lord, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it; and he shall be as a native of the land. For no uncircumcised person shall eat it.

Paul resolved the issue:

Romans 2:28 & 29. For he is not a Jew which is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that is outward in the flesh. But he is a Jew which is one inwardly, and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit and not in the letter, whose praise is not of men, but of God.

Note the clear symmetry between the two verses right up to “in the spirit and not in the letter”. But then Paul adds this final clarification; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

When our heart is circumcised, we can say like Paul:

Galatians 1:10. For do I now persuade men or God? Or do I seek to please men? For if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.

1 Thessalonians 2:4. But as we were allowed of God to be put in trust with the gospel, even so we speak; not as pleasing men but God, which tries our hearts.

Some translations change this to “God, who tries our hearts.'' Granted, He certainly does try us, but the point Paul is making is that the test of a circumcised heart is to put ourselves to this question: am I pleasing men or God. This is the issue which tries our hearts.

Twice Paul makes an interesting statement in 1 Co 1:31 and 2 Co 10:17, “let them that glory, glory in the Lord.” The statement suggests that he is quoting a verse from the Old Testament. In actuality, he is paraphrasing a passage from the prophet Jeremiah. Paul is attempting to remind them of instructions he gave while he was with them.

Paul’s stay in Corinth is chronicled in Acts 18. He reasoned in the synagogue every Sabbath and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks...then he continued there for 18 months! “teaching the Word of God among them”. v.11.

So let’s look at the text from Jeremiah that Paul would have been teaching from to apply this paraphrase he uses “to glory in the Lord.”

Jeremiah 9:23 & 24. Thus saith the Lord, let not the wise glory in his wisdom, neither let the mighty glory in his might, let not the rich glory in his riches: but let him that glories glory in this, that he understands and knows Me, that I am the Lord which exercises loving-kindness, judgment and righteousness in the earth; for in these things I delight, saith the Lord.

Now let’s jump back over to 1 Corinthians:

1 Corinthians 1:26-29. for you see your calling brethren how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble are called; but God has chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise, and God has chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty, and base things of the world and things which are despised God has chosen, yes and the things which are not to bring to naught things that are; that no flesh shall glory in His presence.

Try to set aside the obvious inference that the church is made up of foolish, weak, base and despised members and hear the echo of Jeremiah 9 in this passage. So what was Paul teaching on by using Jeremiah 9 as his text? Let’s continue through the final two verses:

Jeremiah 9:25&26. Behold, the days come says the Lord, that I will punish all of them which are circumcised with the uncircumcised, and all that are in the utmost corners, that dwell in the wilderness: for all these nations are uncircumcised, and all the house of Israel are uncircumcised in the heart.

In the time of Jeremiah, all the people of Israel had become blind to God’s Word. Even as Paul wrote to the Corinthians:

2 Corinthians 3:15-17. For unto this day when Moses is read, the veil is upon their heart. Nevertheless when it (the heart) shall turn to the Lord, the veil shall be taken away. Now the Lord is that Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

The blindness of the uncircumcised heart is a paramount issue. For the Lord has set a day when the veil will be lifted from the hearts of Israel. This is an opportunity to look at the first of the mysteries of God revealed in Christ that Paul speaks of:

1 Corinthians 4:1&2. Let a man so account of us as ministers of Christ, and stewards of the mysteries of God. Moreover, it is required in stewards that a man be found faithful.

In order to be a faithful steward, a saint must know what these mysteries are of which Paul speaks.

Romans 11:25. For I would not brethren that you should be ignorant of this mystery, less you should be wise in your own conceits, that blindness in part has happened to Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles be come in.

Compare to this verse, and consider the time:

Luke 21:24. And Jerusalem will be trampled by Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

What it meant for the Israelites to have uncircumcised heart is that they did not know God (Jeremiah 9:3), they were committing themselves to iniquity (9:5), they refused to know him (9:6), and they had forsaken the Mosaic Law and had not obeyed His voice or walked in it (9:13). They need to needed to boast that they understood and knew God, that He is the Lord who practices steadfast love, justice, and righteousness in the earth, for he delights in those things (9:24). The Israelites needed to be taught how to know God and how else were they taught how to know God if not through the Mosaic Law?

Deuteronomy 10:12-22 “And now, Israel, what does the Lord your God require of you, but to fear the Lord your God, to walk in all his ways, to love him, to serve the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul, 13 and to keep the commandments and statutes of the Lord, which I am commanding you today for your good? 14 Behold, to the Lord your God belong heaven and the heaven of heavens, the earth with all that is in it. 15 Yet the Lord set his heart in love on your fathers and chose their offspring after them, you above all peoples, as you are this day. 16 Circumcise therefore the foreskin of your heart, and be no longer stubborn. 17 For the Lord your God is God of gods and Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God, who is not partial and takes no bribe. 18 He executes justice for the fatherless and the widow, and loves the sojourner, giving him food and clothing. 19 Love the sojourner, therefore, for you were sojourners in the land of Egypt. 20 You shall fear the Lord your God. You shall serve him and hold fast to him, and by his name you shall swear. 21 He is your praise. He is your God, who has done for you these great and terrifying things that your eyes have seen. 22 Your fathers went down to Egypt seventy persons, and now the Lord your God has made you as numerous as the stars of heaven.

Deuteronomy 30:1-10 “And when all these things come upon you, the blessing and the curse, which I have set before you, and you call them to mind among all the nations where the Lord your God has driven you, 2 and return to the Lord your God, you and your children, and obey his voice in all that I command you today, with all your heart and with all your soul, 3 then the Lord your God will restore your fortunes and have mercy on you, and he will gather you again from all the peoples where the Lord your God has scattered you. 4 If your outcasts are in the uttermost parts of heaven, from there the Lord your God will gather you, and from there he will take you. 5 And the Lord your God will bring you into the land that your fathers possessed, that you may possess it. And he will make you more prosperous and numerous than your fathers. 6 And the Lord your God will circumcise your heart and the heart of your offspring, so that you will love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul, that you may live. 7 And the Lord your God will put all these curses on your foes and enemies who persecuted you. 8 And you shall again obey the voice of the Lord and keep all his commandments that I command you today. 9 The Lord your God will make you abundantly prosperous in all the work of your hand, in the fruit of your womb and in the fruit of your cattle and in the fruit of your ground. For the Lord will again take delight in prospering you, as he took delight in your fathers, 10 when you obey the voice of the Lord your God, to keep his commandments and his statutes that are written in this Book of the Law, when you turn to the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul.

So an uncircumcised heart and not knowing God is expressed through forsaking the Mosaic Law while having a circumcised heart and knowing God is expressed through obeying it. The same thing is said in Romans 2:26, where the way to recognize that a Gentile has a circumcised heart is by observing their obedience to the Mosaic Law. Likewise, in Matthew 7:21-23, Jesus said that he would tell people to depart from him because he never knew them because they were workers of lawlessness and didn't do the Father's will. In 1 John 2:3-6, those who say that they know Christ, but don't obey His commands are liars and the truth is not in them. In 1 John 3:4-6, sin is the transgression of the Mosaic Law and those who continue to practice sin have neither seen or known him.

 

[Mr. M]

Circumcision of the heart, in the spirit is the work of the Holy Spirit.
The Promise of The Father.

Romans 4:13-16. For the promise that he would be the heir of the world was not to Abraham or to his seed through the law, but through the righteousness of faith. For if those who are of the law are heirs, faith is made void and the promise made of no effect, because the law brings about wrath; for where there is no law there is no transgression. Therefore it is of faith that it might be sure to all the seed, not only to those who are of the law, but also to those who are of the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us all.

Acts 1:4, 5. And being assembled together with them, He commanded them not to depart from Jerusalem, but to wait for the Promise of the Father, which, He said, you have heard from Me; for John truly baptized with water, but you shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days from now.

Luke 24:49. Behold, I send the Promise of My Father upon you; but tarry in the city of Jerusalem until you are endued with power from on high.

Acts 2:33, 34. This Jesus God has raised up, to the right hand of God, and having received from the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, He poured out this which you now see and hear.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

How many believers, born again Ekklesia, disciples,

become or became echad (one) with the son and with the Father ,

as the son and the Father are echad (one),

so also , as Jesus Prayed, the disciples becaome echad (one).

 

[Mr. M]

Even now there is but a very small remnant.
2 Co 10:18. For it Is not the one who commends himself who is approved, but the one whom the Lord commends.
John 5:41-44. I do not accept glory from men. But I know you, that you do not have the love of God in yourselves. I have come in My Father’s name, and you do not receive Me. But if another comes in his own name, you will receive him. How can you believe, when you receive glory from one another and you do not seek the glory that comes from God alone?