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A theory is something that has not been proven scientifically.

The ball is now in your court.

Can you prove that burning jet fuel can melt steel, even though the flame temperature of the fire is lower than the melting point of steel?

Can you prove that the burning of office furnishings will reach a temperature high enough to melt steel?

Can you prove that cell-phone calls could be made from high altitude during 2001, when those who worked in the industry said it could not?

Can you prove that cutting the support structure of one beam in a building will cause the whole building to collapse as the NIST report claimed about building 7?

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Can you prove that the buildings were not brought down via the planes hitting them?

Seems to me that you are just clutching at straws trying to find a way to make your conspiracy theories work!
 
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Can you prove that the buildings were not brought down via the planes hitting them?

Absolutely.
The engineer who designed the Twin Towers designed them to withstand the impact of a passenger jet.
About 40% of the load of the building was carried by the steel on the perimeter of the building and the rest was carried by the steel that surrounded the elevator shafts in the core of the building.
The second plane almost completely missed the core of the building, when it turned at the moment before impact.


Both of the buildings survived the impact of the jets.
Therefore, the buildings were not brought down by the planes hitting them.


Some have argued that the burning jet fuel and burning office furnishings caused the collapse of the buildings, instead of the impact of the airplanes.

If a proper analysis had been done on each piece of steel from the buildings, instead of sending them to China for recycling as scrap metal, we might know exactly why the buildings collapsed. If this analysis had been done, it would now be a matter of public record which allow anyone to have access to the data.

However, since that was not done we have to rely on the few pieces that remain, like the piece which has come to be known as "the meteorite".
It is made up of once melted metal and concrete.
Also, there is a beam which was welded to another beam by melting.


The one clutching at straws cannot bring himself to believe the truth about the melting point of steel...
 
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Can you prove that the buildings were not brought down via the planes hitting them?

Seems to me that you are just clutching at straws trying to find a way to make your conspiracy theories work!
There is nothing that delights a government more than to lead around by the nose those of its citizens who consume and parrot its propaganda labelling any investigations into its crimes and malfeasances as “conspiracy theories.”

Those most susceptible are those who refuse to logically, soberly, and objectively examine and analyze legitimate verifiable data and information regarding a given issue. Unfortunately, that represents a disconcertingly large segment of society.

9/11 is yet another prime example.

The expression “conspiracy theory” was originated by the CIA in response to critics of the Warren Commission's report that JFK was assassinated by Lee Harvey Oswald. CIA influence within the mainstream media has ensured that the tactic has been a resounding success ever since.

Try not to be another one of the tactic's innumerable victims.
 
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It has been said by others that if you want people to like you, tell them what they want to hear..
And if you want people to hang on your every word, make up "the real secret story, known but to a few" and tell it as though it were the truth. The whole 9/11 "truther" narrative is the worst kind of hogwash. This is the opinion of my favorite Electrical Engineer, me.
 
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I think the impact, heat from jet fuel and thin steel construction (especially floor supports) caused the collapse of the towers.
The floors(s) that sustained the impact failed, and from then on it was cascade failure, when each floor below, in succession, suddenly was slammed with a force many times what it had been designed to handle. Boring, but then the truth often lacks the emotional zing of a Good Story, with Conspiracies and Bad Guys.
 
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How do you explain the collapse of Building 7, which was not hit by a plane?
It was, however, hit by a few tons of debris from the buildings that were hit by the planes.
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Not damaged much, huh? Just burning like mad and one wall almost completely gone. Just can't imagine why that building fell, musta been Controlled Demolition. And I'm your sainted grandmother.


Burning office materials do not get hot enough to melt the steel that was in building 7.
Burning buildings, even those missing huge chunks of exterior walls, just don't fall, right? Right.


The CIA asset in the video below was locked up to keep her from speaking the truth.
She would have died in prison if her uncle had not been an attorney.
Howcome she's still walking around, then? You saying the gummint wouldn't stick at murdering a few thousand innocents for some ill-defined reason, but can';t manage to silence one "witness". Yep, no doubt in my mind.
 
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Absolutely.
The engineer who designed the Twin Towers designed them to withstand the impact of a passenger jet.
About 40% of the load of the building was carried by the steel on the perimeter of the building and the rest was carried by the steel that surrounded the elevator shafts in the core of the building.
The second plane almost completely missed the core of the building, when it turned at the moment before impact.


Both of the buildings survived the impact of the jets.
Therefore, the buildings were not brought down by the planes hitting them.


Some have argued that the burning jet fuel and burning office furnishings caused the collapse of the buildings, instead of the impact of the airplanes.

If a proper analysis had been done on each piece of steel from the buildings, instead of sending them to China for recycling as scrap metal, we might know exactly why the buildings collapsed. If this analysis had been done, it would now be a matter of public record which allow anyone to have access to the data.

However, since that was not done we have to rely on the few pieces that remain, like the piece which has come to be known as "the meteorite".
It is made up of once melted metal and concrete.
Also, there is a beam which was welded to another beam by melting.


The one clutching at straws cannot bring himself to believe the truth about the melting point of steel...

Lol, you will try anything to skirt around the truth! The planes hitting the building, the force of that, the fuel, the combustible materials in the building, the stresses involved on the structure etc, all led to the collapse.

You are just trying to convince yourself otherwise buddy!
 
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The floors(s) that sustained the impact failed, and from then on it was cascade failure, when each floor below, in succession, suddenly was slammed with a force many times what it had been designed to handle. Boring, but then the truth often lacks the emotional zing of a Good Story, with Conspiracies and Bad Guys.

I initially thought the same thing about the twin towers.

However, after I saw the following video of building 7 I was forced to another conclusion.


Turn up the sound on your computer and watch the following.
You will hear the bang of the explosive charges and you will see the momentary bright flash when they occur.



Other videos of the collapse of Building 7 show the same thing from different angles.

The building was cut vertically into 3 sections before the bottom supports were cut.
The building then fell at free-fall speed.


There may not be any electrical engineers among the thousands of architects and engineers who design and construct buildings of this type, and say Building 7 did not collapse due to fire.
You would be more qualified to tell us how to wire the building for demolition.


"Just burning like mad and one wall almost completely gone."

The windows were gone in a section, but the support structure was not gone from that wall. You are greatly exaggerating the damage to make your viewpoint work.
Knocking all of the windows out of your house will not make it collapse.


How do you explain away the video above?
 
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I initially thought the same thing about the twin towers.

Standard conspiracy-theorist ploy.


There may not be any electrical engineers among the thousands of architects and engineers who design and construct buildings of this type, and say Building 7 did not collapse due to fire.

Your "thousands of engineers" are imaginary. All engineers know that uncontrolled fire can make steel buildings collapse, because heat softens steel.
 
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