Rev 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
The part that claims those above are not members of the New Covenant Church, since a person cannot be under the blood of the Lamb and not be a part of the Church.
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baberean2,
1. You obviously don’t like scriptural facts.
You seem to like to draw false conclusions by partial truths.
2. You can’t debunk what theBible shows as I have already shown you.
3. The New Covenant came in because Christ had to die for this man’s sin who were ungodly sinners and had to be justified by his blood. Romans 5:6-9.
4. Christ also died so there would’ve no difference between Jew and the Greek meaning Gentiles Roman’s 10:12.
5. He died and the veil was rent and the mystery of the church was born and manifested 7-10 years later so Jews and Gentiles could become one new man Ephesians 2:14-15;3:3-6.
6. The Jews were given the oracles of God Roman’s 3:2.
The church of Jews and Gentiles took the nation of Israel’s place of propagating the gospel because of their rejection of Christ Matthew 23:37-39.
We are to make them jealous to return to Christ Roman’s 11.11
and to bring them back into their gifts and callings Romans 11:29;25-29.
7. Matthew 24:15 shows the future time of Jacob’s trouble Daniel 12:1; Matthew 24:21 that Daniel spoke of Daniel 9:27 and that Paul showed in 2Thessalonians 2:4.
8. The church is never mentioned or implied as being on earth in the time of the tribulation.
Jews and saints are mentioned and tribulation saints but not the word church.
The church from the church age is not propagating the gospel here.
Ever since the cross people have to be saved by the Blood of Christ.
9. Revelation 7:9-10 has the great multitude which no man could number of all nations, kindness, and people and tongues stood before the throne and before the lamb clothed with white robes and palms in their hands. They cried , Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne and unto the lamb.
Verse 11 has the angels, elders, and the four beasts worship God about the multitude.
In verse 13; one of the elders answered, saying unto me (John)
What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
Verse 14; And I ( John) said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the lamb.
John had been told to come up hither to Heaven to see things hereafter which was the church age saints.
John was part of the beginning of the church age saints and he knew the earmarks of a Christian but he didn’t know who these tribulation saints were and never cited them as the church.
John 14:2 John wrote; In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
Verse 3: And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you into myself; that where I am, there you may be also.
10. John wrote about the overcomers of the church age in Revelation 2-3.
To overcome trials and temptations so the church age would miss the Great Tribulation.
Enoch was delivered from Noah’s flood as a type of the rapture Genesis 6:21-24.
Jude 1:1; Enoch is the same one that prophesied Behold the Lord come with his saints to execute judgement on the ungodly. This is shown to be true in Revelation 19:11.
11. Revelation 7 shows John didn’t know, recognize, or acknowledge that he knew who the tribulation saints or that they were the church.
12. Because you don’t believe in the nation of Israel’s eternal earthly gifts and callings will come to pass apart from the church you don’t understand God’s program for the millennial kingdom.
13. Jesus said if the Jews didn’t praise him the rocks would cry out.
The gospel has been preached basically to all nations by preaching, literature, radio and TV and videos. When the rapture happens there will be people who will have known what has happened and who will know to get right.
You don’t realize it but your belief limits God and makes him out to be unfaithful to his eternal covenants made to his eternal people the Jews who are the apple of his eye.
Either you believe the word or you don’t and right now on this issue you don’t. Read 2 Samuel 7:13-16; 1 Chronicles 28:1-8; Isaiah 2:2-4; 9:6-7 and all through the prophets.
Why do you shun these truths and then contrive scriptures like Roman’s 2 to build up a false theory of the extreme Spiritual Jew as the church thus believing in Replacement Theology.
I know you deny this but this is the result of leaving Israel out of God’s plan for ruling the earth at the head of the nations.
John was in Heaven with the rest of the church in Revelation and knew the tribulation saints were not a part of the church age saints.
Jerry kelso
