6,000 year old earth theory conflicts with the speed of light.

[Tiredknight]

Light is stretched out in expanding space; it’s called “red shift”. To stretch it out in one day, would drastically alter its frequency. It would no longer be light and that degree of frequency shift is implausible.

For humans... but not for the being that made it...

 

[Habakk]

For humans... but not for the being that made it...

True, God can create the Heavens and the Earth in seven days by the power of his word alone.

However you simply can’t have a logical paradox.

You can’t create a square circle.

You can’t reason that God can create a weight that is too heavy for even him to lift.

And you can’t stretch out light in just one day because it’s another logical paradox.

Ether the bible is wrong or our science is wrong and as stretching out light in just one day in a logical paradox with no empirical falsifiable criteria. Then the science is pseudoscience.

 

[yeshuasavedme]

It's all about context. Genesis 1-3 brims with symbols and awe. For example, to take Genesis literally is to say that Satan is literally a serpent, yet later in the Bible, he is described as a beautiful angel with 12 wings.
It gets to the point where you have to concede that the Beginning is as Revelation- symbolic and mysterious.

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Satan is never a holy angel in the Bible, nor does he have wings of any number.
Satan is the evil sprit in heaven who is the chief of the evil spirits in heaven, who were created for the kingdom of darkness. Their job and pleasure is to tempt, try, and test the holy angels in heaven and the sons of Adam on earth.
Their reward for their duty well done is to feast on the holy angels who sinned and the sons of Adam who believed their lies and who did not repent and believe and obey God; the fallen angels and the sons of Adam who do not repent are the food, which they will feast upon in the tormenting and afflicting of those fallen angels and the sons of Adam, in the Lake of Fire, forever.
Satan and his unholy "angels" are laying up their store now, for the time they will be bound in their kingdom of darkness. They want lots of food to feast upon.
Only Jesus' blood Atonement can set a son of Adam free from the grips of that kingdom of darkness, but the fallen angels have no repentance offered, only darkness and torment forever, to look forward to.
The Book of Enoch =Ethiopian Enoch which is in the Ethiopian Ge'ez Bible and always has been there since they came into Christ in the first century -and other ancient writings in the Dead Sea Scrolls- all show that what the Bible tells us about Satan is true: He is the tester/slanderer/ accuser/ destroyer, the Prince of Darkness.
But he was never a holy angel. There is not one single scripture that even hints at the satans as fallen angels. They do the job they were created to do, which is to test. Their reward is the spoils of the capture, to feast upon forever.

 

[yeshuasavedme]

True, God can create the Heavens and the Earth in seven days by the power of his word alone.

However you simply can’t have a logical paradox.

You can’t create a square circle.

You can’t reason that God can create a weight that is too heavy for even him to lift.

And you can’t stretch out light in just one day because it’s another logical paradox.

Ether the bible is wrong or our science is wrong and as stretching out light in just one day in a logical paradox with no empirical falsifiable criteria. Then the science is pseudoscience.

Amazing unbelief and reasonings of fallen men who are not God and who deem to tell God how He did it!
-PS: He did it in six evenings and mornings =six normal days, and on day 2, He stretched out the "firmament" which He named "two waters/divided waters" -"Sha-mayim"- between the waters/mayim, and by His power, raising half above the firmament/named "shamayim" and leaving half below the firmamant.
No sun nor moon existed in the stretched out heavens until they were made and set there on day 4, but it is debatable if there were stars when the Light was brought into being on day 1, because the stars are the electric connectors for the universe. -The universe is electric, and Tesla knew it and many men of science, though not being Christian or Bible believers, also know it and can prove it in a laboratory.

 

[Elder 111]

We all know God created the heavens and the earth in 7 "days". That's what the Bible says. One can assume that means the universe.

My question is this: if one is to take the Bible literally about how it was created, that would put the earth at around 7,000 years old.

The speed of light in vacuum, commonly denoted c, is a universal physical constant important in many areas of physics. Its value is 299,792,458 metres per second, a figure that is exact because the length of the metre is defined from this constant and the international standard for time. In imperial units this speed is approximately 186,282 miles per second.

Given the distance (on a cosmological scale) between stars, it would take MUCH longer than 7,000 years for the light of those stars to become visible to the human eye in our solar system. Hundreds of thousands of years it would take for light to travel at 186,282 miles per second at those distances.

So how is this? If the earth is only 7,000 years old, all those stars in the night sky would not yet be visible to us because their photons would not have reached us.

Whatever the case, our God is big.

We cannot explain life and would try to define what God can do with light? God said let there be light and there was in less that a day. When God created Adam, he was not a child.

 

[yeshuasavedme]

For humans... but not for the being that made it...

You do not even know what "light is". Nor do I, so you cannot make "laws" for it nor can you even find them, for you cannot even define "Light".
God is "Light" and "Light dwells with Him", but you can't go there or find that place where it dwells, being a creature and not the Creator; but Jesus Christ dwells in that Light and has come to give us His own "Light".

 

[Tiredknight]

You do not even know what "light is". Nor do I, so you cannot make "laws" for it nor can you even find them, for you cannot even define "Light".
God is "Light" and "Light dwells with Him", but you can't go there or find that place where it dwells, being a creature and not the Creator; but Jesus Christ dwells in that Light and has come to give us His own "Light".

Actually I pretty darn good understanding of what Light is... I do build lasers for a living.

 

[SilenceInMotion]

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Satan is never a holy angel in the Bible, nor does he have wings of any number.
Satan is the evil sprit in heaven who is the chief of the evil spirits in heaven, who were created for the kingdom of darkness. Their job and pleasure is to tempt, try, and test the holy angels in heaven and the sons of Adam on earth.

You aren't too educated on the physicality of Satan, are you? If you are, then you should know that Satan was a Cherubic Lord, whom had twelve wings and may or may not be partial to a musical instrument.
The whole depiction of ugly beasts and pea soup is just art and imagination.

 

[Tiredknight]

You do not even know what "light is". Nor do I, so you cannot make "laws" for it nor can you even find them, for you cannot even define "Light".
God is "Light" and "Light dwells with Him", but you can't go there or find that place where it dwells, being a creature and not the Creator; but Jesus Christ dwells in that Light and has come to give us His own "Light".

And to be clear God is not light in the meaning of the particles that are also wave lengths that provide Illumination for eyes to see... Physically.

 

[yeshuasavedme]

Actually I pretty darn good understanding of what Light is... I do build lasers for a living.

Fascinating! So did the ancients, and the old things are discovered again. But using the power of God's electro magnetic creation is not to understand Light nor can you define it nor can you create it by calling it into being.
You have a small harness on something God called into being, but the ancients had so much more harnessed than we have even begun to do that we have nothing to boast of.
There is nothing new under the sun, neither can anyone say "see! "This is new"! For it has all been done before by those who came before us".

 

[Habakk]

You do not even know what "light is". Nor do I, so you cannot make "laws" for it nor can you even find them, for you cannot even define "Light".
God is "Light" and "Light dwells with Him", but you can't go there or find that place where it dwells, being a creature and not the Creator; but Jesus Christ dwells in that Light and has come to give us His own "Light".

Light has a duality as both a particle and a wave motion. As a wave it obeys wave physics and as a particle it obeys particle physics both with well-defined laws.

 

[yeshuasavedme]

And to be clear God is not light in the meaning of the particles that are also wave lengths that provide Illumination for eyes to see... Physically.

You cannot define God, either, and even less do you know about His "Light" that He brought into being and dwells in, which no man can approach unto, but Jesus Christ dwells in.

 

[yeshuasavedme]

Light has a duality as both a particle and a wave motion. As a wave it obeys wave physics and as a particle it obeys particle physics both with well-defined laws.

The laws are man made assumptions which do not obey man's theories on all levels.
We are in the dark about "Light", but it is proved in a lab that the universe is "Electric" and electro-magnetic forces power the universe and hold the creation together.

 

[Tiredknight]

You cannot define God, either, and even less do you know about His "Light" that He brought into being and dwells in, which no man can approach unto, but Jesus Christ dwells in.

Calm it down with the Spiritual Zealotry....

The passage in the Bible that deals with God being Light is in refernce to spiritual, not physical. The bible clear says God has no physical form so Since light has a dual reality of wave length and Physical Photons, Light, Physical light is not God. Though God can control it how ever he wishes...

 

[Tiredknight]

The laws are man made assumptions which do not obey man's theories on all levels.
We are in the dark about "Light", but it is proved in a lab that the universe is "Electric" and electro-magnetic forces power the universe and hold the creation together.

Um no the laws are not Man made assumptions they were always there fashioned by God and Man discovered them.

 

[Habakk]

The laws are man made assumptions which do not obey man's theories on all levels.
We are in the dark about "Light", but it is proved in a lab that the universe is "Electric" and electro-magnetic forces power the universe and hold the creation together.

Nothing is proved in a lab because science is not about proof it’s about evidence. There are four known fundamental forces or interactions. They are electromagnetism, strong interaction ("strong nuclear force"), weak interaction ("weak nuclear force"), and gravitation. Three of them being governed by exchange of Gauge bosons.

 

[yeshuasavedme]

Um no the laws are not Man made assumptions they were always there fashioned by God and Man discovered them.

Funny; man assumes he has discovered what he cannot define, nor create, nor even know what it is.

God's creation is totally supernatural. All His created forces are "spirits" who answer to Him. The sun, moon, and stars are all His servants and obey His commands for their rising and settings -except for the star that never sets.
He brings for the constellations in their seasons, and even the lightnings obey Him, and answer Him when He calls.

 

[Tiredknight]

Funny; man assumes he has discovered what he cannot define, nor create, nor even know what it is.

God's creation is totally supernatural. All His created forces are "spirits" who answer to Him. The sun, moon, and stars are all His servants and obey His commands for their rising and settings -except for the star that never sets.
He brings for the constellations in their seasons, and even the lightnings obey Him, and answer Him when He calls.

wow... just Wow.. Madam your posts are amazing.

 

[Forge3]

I actually have the power to lay out words that are uncontestable. God died for us so that we may truly live. God suffered for us so we may rise above suffering. God loved us so much he became immanuel and dwelt among us. Now ignore my post do not comment. But God is the judge of your heart not your deeds.

 

[yeshuasavedme]

Nothing is proved in a lab....

"Plasma Cosmology" experiments in labs do prove that the universe is electric.
Now I cannot do it, only read about it, but because I am a Bible believer, I went looking for the scientists who teach and research the "Electric Universe", and found that there are many -and have always been many -though they are not Christian Bible believers they know the universe is electric.
So what is the "Light" brought into being on day 1? -not the sun, but the power and powers that make the universe run, and then the power of God stretched out the heavens, with the Light, on day 2, between the waters of the creation, with half the waters -Hebrew "mayim" above the firmament and half below the firmament. He called the firmament "Sha-mayim" -translated to English "heavens", which you can say "two waters" as the sha character was first written as a sign of two front teeth; or you can say "cut waters" as they are the incisors making the "sha", or you could say divided waters . Heaven/sha-mayim is that firmament stretched out from earth which has the "Light" of day one stretched out with it, and in the heavens, below the half of earth's waters, are the sun, moon, and stars.



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