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4 other warming periods in the geologic record.

Discussion in 'Physical & Life Sciences' started by greatcloudlives, Mar 30, 2020.

  1. expos4ever

    expos4ever Well-Known Member

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    I will almost certainly bet that this is what is going on here. Let me suppose that it is indeed true that man contributes only a tiny percentage of the CO2. Even if that is true, that contribution can tip the scales in the direction of disaster.

    Analogy: Imagine your bathtub can drain 1 quart per hour. And let's say the faucet is on and delivering 1 quart per hour. Result: your bathtub will not overflow.

    Now let's suppose I am in your bathroom and I add one measly liquid ounce per hour while everything else stays the same.

    Guess what is going to happen ultimately.
     
  2. Hans Blaster

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    I went through 6 pages of that web site (going back almost 4 years) and only found references to a couple pre-prints. Pre-prints are published and their aren't peer reviewed.

    I did look briefly at the pre-print, but it seemed a rather simplistic model, but I can't say right away if its right or wrong with out more in depth review.

    [There are also some presentations of the pre-print at meetings with abstracts. Meeting posters/talks aren't peer reviewed either and many societies give members the right to present at the annual meeting.]
     
  3. sjastro

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    So the model uses a simple continuity equation.............
    A quick look at the paper indicates increasing CO₂ levels is through out-gassing from the oceans in which case increasing temperature is driving CO₂ levels rather than around the other way according to AGW.

    Satellite temperature measurements destroys the model.
    If temperature is driving CO₂ levels both the troposphere and lower stratosphere temperatures would be in phase (both would be increasing with time).
    As explained on many occasions a signature of AGW is troposphere and lower stratosphere temperatures are out of phase, the temperature of the troposphere is increasing while the lower stratosphere is decreasing.
     
  4. greatcloudlives

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    The CO2 mankind produces is no different then the CO2 produced by nature. And the ocean and plants are a constant sink for CO2 balancing it out of the atmosphere.
     
  5. JackRT

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    Actually, they were balancing it out until the industrial age arrived.
     
  6. greatcloudlives

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    Mankind produces only seven ppm of the CO2 produced the rest is from nature. This minute amount compared to 400 ppm from nature is too small to affect the warming we have.
     
  7. greatcloudlives

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    In the geological record co2 and temperature both have been higher than the measurements of the modern era and plants and animals have thrived. We are in no danger of destroying the Earth's climate. Even if all the fossil fuels were burned at one time it would be only a slight difference. Mankind is not destroying the Earth's climate.
     
  8. Subduction Zone

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    Destroy? No, that will not happen. Alter catastrophically? Yep, that appears to be the case.
     
  9. Subduction Zone

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    Once again it has increased to 400 ppm due to man's activities. You should be trying to understand how we know this.
     
  10. greatcloudlives

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    Climatism.blog the midevial warming period was warmer than now and global in scope. Many geologic records worldwide show this to be true.
     
  11. greatcloudlives

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    Climatism and the midevial warming period.
     
  12. Jonathan Walkerin

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    How to spot the scientific expertise of a climate change denier?
     
  13. JackRT

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    It was actually limited to the North Atlantic region. It was global.
     
  14. FrumiousBandersnatch

    FrumiousBandersnatch Well-Known Member

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    Fixed that for you ;)
     
  15. JackRT

    JackRT OOPS!!! Supporter

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  16. JackRT

    JackRT OOPS!!! Supporter

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    Thank you, and I have fixed it too.
     
  17. greatcloudlives

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    co2coalition.org the MWP is shown by many websites to be global and just as warm as the modern warming.
     
  18. Subduction Zone

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    And cigarette companies paid doctors to say that smoking was healthy for people.

    Vet your sources.
     
  19. greatcloudlives

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    The time when CO2 stays in the atmosphere is four years. Why than when CO2 radiates out is the heat not greatly Deminished according to the law of entropy.
     
  20. Subduction Zone

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    Where do you get our "facts and figures"? The number of years that carbon dioxide lasts is complicated. It is not four years:

    Greenhouse Gases: How Long Will They Last?

    Carbon dioxide acts as a blanket. It lets sunlight in but is opaque to heat. That means it lets energy (sunlight) in, but it holds the reradiated sunlight, (heat) to the Earth.
     
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