SeventyOne
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For starters it does not describe as you are implying how Jesus was taken up, of course you try to take it out of context. Just the fact that the Holy Spirit took Jesus up is BY FORCE, you can find old Greek words that say it must be violent of you so desire, I understand it means BY FORCE. And also Jesus was taken up here for the last time as per the Disciples seeing him on earth. This was not when Jesus FIRST WENT TO HEAVEN, that happened after Mary saw him and he said do not touch me for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Then he Ascended, so why bring up the Acts verses which was 40 days later? Because there is no eyewitness to the other ascension so you have to bring thin in. The truth is you have no clue how Jesus was taken up the first time because there was no Eyewitnesses.
The very nature of ascension meant BY FORCE. And Force can be Violent but doesn't have to be. High Pressure water shot straight up is not violent, shooting it at people makes it violent. Its all in the way you look at something.
That's your problem as well, and yet nothing stops you from making an assumption. But what we do have is a gradual ascention, not one described in Rev 12. We also don't have His removal being as a result of the dragon awaiting his birth to devour Him. That happened years before His ascention. He was in no danger whatsoever when He left the first time. He also was not a child when he ascended and He isn't the only one to rule the nations with a rod of iron.
This isn't Him. All the identifiers only fit the church. the only way you can make it about Jesus is to ignore what it says and then insert your own meaning.
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