2020 Dems criticize religious voters

[dzheremi]

I heard the same thing said about Clinton and the religious left.

Wait, what? The ones saying that then are the same ones who are supporting Trump now!

I'm not sure this is a road that religious people who support Trump should want to go down...

 

[Speedwell]

I guess you must consider consider the totality Christianity to consist of white southerners who are mostly Evangelical. Black Southern Baptists, Hispanic Catholics, etc. must in your mind be either secular groups or non Christian religions.

No, that's what's in the mind of white southerners who are mostly Evangelical.

 

[A_Thinker]

No, Trump does not support Christian values. He is an atheist, who lies and cheats and steal, and the GOP religious right support him.

My question is ... as the white evangelicals have gotten into bed with Trump, ... when he goes down, ... do they go down with him ?

 

[bekkilyn]

Maybe those groups have been pressed into submission or sidelined, or have voluntarily withdrawn from the public arena. I would not deny the existence of the these quiet pockets of alternative Christianity.

But the main thrust of Christianity in the USA is a serve as a pillar in the Republican party temple. Thats how it looks, anyway.

What's sad is that Christianity that actually includes Christ (and *his* values) must now be considered as alternative.

 

[grasping the after wind]

That's funny.

All the conservatives I know are the "most oppressed" whiners ...

I wonder how many conservatives you know all that well. As a somewhat conservative, I will admit I am not any more oppressed than anyone else . Every problem or shortcoming I have in my life is a consequence of my own decision making and not the work of some identity group that wishes my identity group harm. That being the case I can hardly whine about being oppressed.

 

[GreatLakes4Ever]

My question is ... as the white evangelicals have gotten into bed with Trump, ... when he goes down, ... do they go down with him ?

They’ll deny ever knowing him. They were not fooled by the clearly horrible man and no True Christians we’re fooled either.

 

[Mountainmanbob]

GOP religious right support him.

Because he supports us.
It ain't rocket science.
M-Bob

 

[LoveOurNeighbor]

Trump campaign needs truthful slogan. MABA Make America Bankrupt & Ashamed

The President excels at both

 

[GreatLakes4Ever]

No, Trump does not support Christian values. He is an atheist, who lies and cheats and steal, and the GOP religious right support him.

I don’t think he is an atheist. I honestly do not believe he has ever considered the question “Does a god exist?” He simply doesn’t care. He just goes with whatever is best for him financially/politically in that moment.

 

[Speedwell]

What seems to work for them? Advocating for people to accept adultery, fornication and other sins as pleasing to God?

When was the last time you heard someone question the faith of an adulterer because of his adultery? Not just condemn his adultery, but deny the authenticity of his faith because of his adultery? Or for any other sin, besides homosexuality?

 

[Brightmoon]

My question is ... as the white evangelicals have gotten into bed with Trump, ... when he goes down, ... do they go down with him ?

it seems like they are. The fastest growing population in this country seem
to be atheist or non theist . It’s a toss up between which is pushing people away faster, the authoritarian sexist fascism or the pseudosciences they want to teach

 

[dzheremi]

My question is ... as the white evangelicals have gotten into bed with Trump, ... when he goes down, ... do they go down with him ?

Going by the numbers, such people are already doomed to replacement by the rise of what have been termed "South Park Republicans": the younger, hipper generation of Republicans who are mostly fiscally conservative, but fairly liberal on the kinds of social issues that today define someone as a 'white evangelical'.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Because he supports us.
It ain't rocket science.
M-Bob

“You don’t understand, he really loves me!”

Now where have I seen this sentiment before?

 

[lasthero]

Hard to make that call unless
(you really know the guy)
but, they will try.
M-Bob

It’s actually pretty easy to make that call. The man can’t get enough of telling the world how awesome he is.

 

[A_Thinker]

I wonder how many conservatives you know all that well. As a somewhat conservative, I will admit I am not any more oppressed than anyone else . Every problem or shortcoming I have in my life is a consequence of my own decision making and not the work of some identity group that wishes my identity group harm. That being the case I can hardly whine about being oppressed.

Wow ... you're a first for me.

All the conservatives I know are whining about things like reverse discrimination, women being empowered to call out sleazy men on their offensiveness, everybody not being on the Trump train, taxes being wealth redistribution, whistle-blowers identities not being divulged, enquiry testimony not being divulged, bias against them on Facebook, school kids not wanting to be shot, sixteen years olds protesting global warming, etc, etc., etc. ...

It's quite a long list.

 

[A_Thinker]

When was the last time you heard someone question the faith of an adulterer because of his adultery? Not just condemn his adultery, but deny the authenticity of his faith because of his adultery? Or for any other sin, besides homosexuality?

Why does homosexuality get singled out ?

 

[JohnAshton]

My question is ... as the white evangelicals have gotten into bed with Trump, ... when he goes down, ... do they go down with him ?

Evangelicals do not accept their own failing but will blame you.

 

[essentialsaltes]

OP is confusing religious people for 'people who oppose gay rights'. All of the Democratic candidates are religious.

 

[GACfan]

Wow ... you're a first for me.

All the conservatives I know are whining about things like reverse discrimination, women being empowered to call out sleazy men on their offensiveness, everybody not being on the Trump train, taxes being wealth redistribution, whistle-blowers identities not being divulged, enquiry testimony not being divulged, bias against them on Facebook, school kids not wanting to be shot, sixteen years olds protesting global warming, etc, etc., etc. ...

It's quite a long list.

Don't forget homosexuals coming out of the closet or complaining about gay rights and same-sex marriage or Democrats hate America and Democrats want to destroy America or Democrats want to take away their guns or Democrats aren't "true Christians" or the horror of Democrats embracing non-religious voters or pointing their judgmental finger at some liberal politician for lying and pretending to be morally indignant while willfully ignoring the undeniable fact that Donald Trump repeatedly lies or judging some liberal politician for some other kind of immoral behavior while willfully ignoring the fact that Donald Trump is the epitome of immoral behavior or coming up with lame excuses to dismiss his unchristian behavior, like "I voted for a President, not a Pastor," while they cast stones at liberals.

 

[Dave-W]

And If Trump believes that Jesus Christ is creator and Lord of all what would that make him?

Unless he has submitted himself fully to the Lordship of Jesus, that would make Trump just another person giving mental ascent to a spiritual truth.