20 major reasons to reject the Premillennial doctrine

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You should have highlighted the 1st verse instead

Peter was addressing the Jews scattered abroad in his letters (1 Peter 1:1).


Gentiles do not belong to any specific nation that is born of God so it makes no sense to describe gentile believers are scattered. God never calls us a "holy nation" for the same reason.


Peter would also not be writing a letter to gentile believers, after the agreement he made with Paul, together with James and John, in Galatians 2:9

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"The social makeup of the addressees of 1 Peter is debatable because some scholars interpret "strangers" (1:1) as Christians longing for their home in heaven, some interpret it as literal "strangers", or as an Old Testament adaptation applied to Christian believers."

The words "Israel" and "Jew" are found nowhere within the entire epistle of 1 Peter.

Peter's focus is on these "strangers" as Christians, exclusively and independent of their DNA.

Your racialization attempts fail again.

And your claim that "God never calls us a holy nation" directly contradicts and is fully repudiated by 1 Peter 2:9.
 
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From Wikipedia:
"The social makeup of the addressees of 1 Peter is debatable because some scholars interpret "strangers" (1:1) as Christians longing for their home in heaven, some interpret it as literal "strangers", or as an Old Testament adaptation applied to Christian believers."

The words "Israel" and "Jew" are found nowhere within the entire epistle of 1 Peter.

Peter's focus is on these "strangers" as Christians exclusively and independent of their DNA.

Your racialization attempts fail again.

And your claim that "God never calls us a holy nation" directly contradicts and is fully repudiated by 1 Peter 2:9.

You are free to disagree, as usual, and have your own interpretation of what "strangers" meant
 
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You are free to disagree, as usual, and have your own interpretation of what "strangers" meant

"Israel" and "Jew" are nowhere to be found in 1 Peter.

That leaves one interpretation for "strangers".

Christians.

Who else?
 
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"Israel" and "Jew" are nowhere to be found in 1 Peter.

That leaves one interpretation for "strangers".

Christians.

What else?

I pointed out to you "Peter would also not be writing a letter to gentile believers, after the agreement he made with Paul, together with James and John, in Galatians 2:9"
 
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I pointed out to you "Peter would also not be writing a letter to gentile believers, after the agreement he made with Paul, together with James and John, in Galatians 2:9"

Scattered believers in the Churches were comprised of both Jews and Gentiles.

Did Peter tell the Gentiles to go for coffee to ensure that only the Jews (who are not mentioned at all) could read his epistle?

Quote that verse.
 
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Scattered believers in the Churches were comprised of both Jews and Gentiles.

Did Peter tell the Gentiles to go for coffee to ensure that only the Jews (who are not mentioned at all) could read his epistle?

Quote that verse.

I thought in this forum, all scripture verses have a hyperlink for you to click?

and when they perceived the grace that was given unto me, James and Cephas and John, they who were reputed to be pillars, gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship, that we should go unto the Gentiles, and they unto the circumcision;
 
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I thought in this forum, all scripture verses have a hyperlink for you to click?

and when they perceived the grace that was given unto me, James and Cephas and John, they who were reputed to be pillars, gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship, that we should go unto the Gentiles, and they unto the circumcision;

Have you been watching videos again?

The circumcision included Gentiles who were part of Old Covenant Israel.

And there was never anything prohibiting Peter from ministering to Gentiles even if his focus was Jews.

The evidence is in 1 Peter.
 
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Have you been watching videos again?

The circumcision included Gentiles who were part of Old Covenant Israel.

And there was never anything prohibiting Peter from ministering to Gentiles even if his focus was Jews.

The evidence is in 1 Peter.

Acts 21:18-25 had James explaining the difference between the circumcised believers, and the gentile believers, see vs 25.
 
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Acts 21:18-25 had James explaining the difference between the circumcised believers, and the gentile believers, see vs 25.

Gentile believers who had been circumcised were known as circumcised Gentile believers.
 
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Gentile believers who had been circumcised were known as circumcised Gentile believers.

Yes, they became part of the nation of circumcised Israel (Esther 8:17), which is a different group from gentiles who were saved under the gospel given to Paul (Galatians 2:3, Galatians 5:2).
 
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Yes, they became part of the nation of circumcised Israel (Esther 8:17), which is a different group from gentiles who were saved under the gospel given to Paul (Galatians 2:3, Galatians 5:2).

So there were Gentiles in the audience to whom Peter addressed his epistle.
 
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So there were Gentiles in the audience to whom Peter addressed his epistle.

I already said, those gentiles become part of circumcised Israel.

They are not the same gentiles who believed under the ministry of Paul, that was stated in Galatians 2:9. Those, like us, are NOT part of circumcised Israel.
 
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I already said, those gentiles become part of circumcised Israel.

They are not the same gentiles who believed under the ministry of Paul, that was stated in Galatians 2:9. Those, like us, are NOT part of circumcised Israel.
Completely irrelevant, since Peter did not address his audience as Jews or Gentiles. He was entirely unconcerned about their ethnicity.

He addressed them as Christians.
 
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Completely irrelevant, since Peter did not address his audience as Jews or Gentiles. He was entirely unconcerned about their ethnicity.

He addressed them as Christians.

As I said, we can agree to disagree. You interpret Galatians 2:9 differently from me.
 
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As I said, we can agree to disagree. You interpret Galatians 2:9 differently from me.

There is no Scripture to be found that even remotely suggests that Peter was prohibited from ministering to anyone of his choosing.
 
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There is no Scripture to be found that even remotely suggests that Peter was prohibited from ministering to anyone of his choosing.

Well, if Peter were to tell gentile believers what he told Israel in 1 Peter 4:17-18, Paul would have objected.

17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?

18 And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?
 
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Well, if Peter were to tell gentile believers what he told Israel in 1 Peter 4:17-18, Paul would have objected.

17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?

18 And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?
Paul would have heartily agreed.

You're way off the original topic. Bros. Sovereigngrace and Spiritual Jew explained Romans 11 for you. There is no "national Israel" in Romans 11. There is "all Israel" which Paul defines in Romans 9:6-8 as the children of the promise.
 
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The final decider of our Salvation, will happen after the Millennium, at the GWT Judgement, whether our name is in the Book of Life.
But who goes with Jesus into the Millennium is decided by how we kept our faith during all the forthcoming end time events.
If we are killed for our faith, then Jesus will raise us up to be His priests and co-rulers, Revelation 20:4.
But the main group who will be gathered to Him at His Return, Matthew 24:31, will be those who did not violate the Covenant as per Daniel 9:29 and Daniel 11:32

They will be kept in the place of safety for the final 1260 days, in which Satan will have most of the world control. Revelation 13:5-8
 
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