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20 major reasons to reject the Premillennial doctrine

Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by sovereigngrace, May 15, 2020.

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  1. Timtofly

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    Darby and Calvin offer the same rose colored glasses for a discount, branded under different names. Same manufacturer, and it is not God's Word.
     
  2. Douggg

    Douggg anytime rapture, non-dispensationalist, futurist

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    In its simplest definition faith is believing , with confidence, some thing or some one. Here is what faith attests to regarding the bible.

    Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

    2 For by it the elders obtained a good report.

    3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.

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    Jesus sent the Holy Spirit to believers in Him -Jesus - to be a Comforter regarding what we believe; strengthening us in our faith, to reveal all truth testifying of Jesus.


    John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

    16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

    17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.


    John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

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    No-one before Jesus's death and resurrection was saved, although many were righteous and had great faith.

    Salvation involves removal of all sin in a person's life - as though those sins never happened. Not only forgiven, but the slate wiped clean.

    Faith is substance, the essential nature of believing. In and of itself though, faith cannot save anyone. It is only faith in the Lord Jesus Christ, His death and resurrection, as God's Way for forgiveness and removal of sin, that a person can be saved.

    No-one in old testament times were "saved", even though they were righteous men before God, and had strong faith in believing God, and that someday God would redeem them. No one is saved, no matter how strong their faith, apart from specifically believing in Jesus and Him as God's Way of salvation.

    The old testament saints were preached to by Jesus while his body was in the grave for three days, as He went into the place where they were and preached the gospel of salvation, specifically of God's Way of how they would be redeemed, and it was then that they became saved, when Jesus came back to life - setting the captives to their situation free.

    That's when their souls went to heaven, which also all Christians should they experience physical death, go to heaven ever since.
     
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  3. jgr

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    If they repented and believed the gospel of the kingdom, they were saved.

    If they did not, they were lost.

    As I said.

    As Scripture tells us.
     
  4. Douggg

    Douggg anytime rapture, non-dispensationalist, futurist

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    In the story of Lazarus and the rich man, why was Abraham and Lazarus in paradise, but not heaven?

    Because at the time of the story, they were in the place of the righteous dead, but they were not yet saved, and thus were not in heaven.

    Zechariah 9:9 Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he is just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.
     
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  5. sovereigngrace

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    Not so! Salvation is what results from the supernatural change that happens within the penitent sinner since the beginning of time through the gracious work of the Spirit of God which enables him to exercise saving faith. This delivers man from the slavery of his sin, renders him righteous before God, makes him a child of God and gives him assurance of eternal rest with God. It causes man to discard his own filthy garments and receive God’s perfect righteousness. It is what sets the believer apart from the unbeliever. We see this salvation right from the Garden of Eden.

    Gen 15:6 And he (Abraham) believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness.

    Exo 15:2 The LORD is my strength and song, and he is become my salvation: he is my God, and I will prepare him an habitation; my father's God, and I will exalt him.

    2Sa 22:3 The God of my rock; in him will I trust: he is my shield, and the horn of my salvation, my high tower, and my refuge, my saviour; thou savest me from violence.

    1Ch 16:23 Sing unto the LORD, all the earth; shew forth from day to day his salvation.

    Psa 3:8 Salvation belongeth unto the LORD: thy blessing is upon thy people. Selah.

    Psa 37:39 But the salvation of the righteous is of the LORD: he is their strength in the time of trouble.

    Psa 98:2 The LORD hath made known his salvation: his righteousness hath he openly shewed in the sight of the heathen.

    Isa 12:2 Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the LORD JEHOVAH is my strength and my song; he also is become my salvation.


    Isa 49:8 Thus saith the LORD, In an acceptable time have I heard thee, and in a day of salvation have I helped thee: and I will preserve thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, to establish the earth, to cause to inherit the desolate heritages;

    Isa 51:5 My righteousness is near; my salvation is gone forth, and mine arms shall judge the people; the isles shall wait upon me, and on mine arm shall they trust.

    Jon 2:9 But I will sacrifice unto thee with the voice of thanksgiving; I will pay that that I have vowed. Salvation is of the LORD.

    Mic 7:7 Therefore I will look unto the LORD; I will wait for the God of my salvation: my God will hear me.

    Hab 3:18 Yet I will rejoice in the LORD, I will joy in the God of my salvation.
     
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  6. jgr

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    Poor boys. Maybe they'll never be saved.
     
  7. Douggg

    Douggg anytime rapture, non-dispensationalist, futurist

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    Then why did Jesus have to die for propitiation of sin?

    1 John 4:10
    Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.
    Romans 3:25
    Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

    1 John 2:2

    And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

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    You quoted many passage containing the word salvation in the old testament. I am not saying that they did not believe that God would be their salvation. But none of them knew God's Way of salvation, because it was kept secret from understanding until after the death and resurrection of Jesus.
     
  8. sovereigngrace

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    I do not agree. They experienced salvation when they exercised faith in God and His impending sacrifice for sin. The reality is: the Old Testament saints looked forward to the cross, we look back. They knew “by faith” that God had a final perfect sacrifice for sin. It was like a post-dated check. They were regenerated on the grounds of the certainty of the impending redemptive work of Messiah.
     
  9. Douggg

    Douggg anytime rapture, non-dispensationalist, futurist

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    They could believe that God would provide salvation, but the were not able to believe God's Way which they could be saved. Because it was keep a secret until after Jesus's death and resurrection.

    There is a big difference in believing that God would provide salvation, than God's Way which they could be saved. Otherwise, it negates the need for Jesus to die for the sins of the mankind, and overcome death by His resurrection.

    No-one can be saved apart from believing upon the Lord Jesus Christ, His death and resurrection on the third day. There was no other way to be saved prior, and no other way to be saved after. It is only by Gods specific Way of Salvation.

    Essentially, what you claiming is that there was a different way of salvation in the old testament, apart from Salvation in Jesus, by His death and resurrection. That is not what was being taught in Hebrews.
     
  10. sovereigngrace

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    You are guilty of what you are accusing me of. It is you that is arguing that "there was a different way of salvation in the old testament, apart from Salvation in Jesus, by His death and resurrection. That is not what was being taught in Hebrews."

    I believe and consistently teach that there is only one Gospel, one Savior, one salvation, and one people of God.
     
  11. jgr

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    Were OT saints saved from the ultimate punishment for sin, i.e. hell?
     
  12. sovereigngrace

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    The Old Testament prophets predicted the manner of Messiah’s ministry and the focus of His earthly mission. They foretold the time that He would come. They described His assignment and detailed His accomplishments. They depicted a suffering servant coming to redeem Israel from their sin. They portrayed the resistance He would experience. They forecast His rejection and the cross.

    Jesus famously rebuked the two downcast disciples on the road to Emmaus on resurrection day, stating: “O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken: Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?” (Luke 24:25-26). After this, he began to open their eyes to the meaning of the sacred pages. Luke 24:25 records: “And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.”

    Jesus began at the beginning with Moses in the Pentateuch and followed right through to the prophets showing these disciples the things pertaining to Himself, His sufferings and His glory. He revealed the Gospel message in the Old Testament pages. Jesus was not just referring to the Old Testament pages. We often see the descriptive coupling of Moses and the prophets as an alternative description of, and distinction between, the written Word and the spoken Word. That is likely why Moses and Elijah joined Christ on the Mount of Transfiguration. They represented both groups and together they pointed to our Redeemer.

    Our Savior continues in Luke 24:44-45: “These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me. Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures.” His intent was to confirm that He completed every demand that was made of Him from the ancient inspired pages. His life was the perfect realization of predicted Old Testament prophecy.

    Paul reminded the Jews that he preached “none other things than those which the prophets and Moses did say should come: That Christ should suffer, and that he should be the first that should rise from the dead, and should shew light unto the people, and to the Gentiles(Acts 26:22-23).

    The OT saints knew of the great truth of Christ's life, death, and resurrection. It may have been a mystery to them, it may have been veiled, but it was revealed to them through Moses and the prophets. They were not ignorant.

    Revelation 13:8 tells us that Christ was “the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.” He was predestined to come into this world as a substitutionary sacrifice, without which no man could be saved. 1 Peter 1:19 confirms that Christ was “a lamb without blemish and without spot: Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you.” There was a predetermined blueprint that Christ had to fulfil – He did perfectly.

    Calvary was an important part of God's Sovereign plan for fallen-man. Our salvation was secured in eternity because God lives and works in eternity. It was experientially realized in time, because man is born and lives in time. Christ performed the Father's will for our lives - by dying for us. The Holy Spirit applied the Father's will to our lives – by convicting us and regenerating us.

    Dispensationalists argue that it is all about the bloodline, and they are right, however, they focus in on the wrong bloodline. They choose the natural bloodline of Abraham instead of the ongoing blood atonement system God has provided as a means of redemption for the penitent sinners. The blood covenant provides a spiritual covering for all those who have entered into a personal experiential covenant relationship with God. This whole arrangement began in the Garden, continued through Abel, and continues still today through the cross-work.
     
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  13. jgr

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    Amen brother.

    It's a pleasure and inspiration to behold your Scriptural Steamroller in operation.
     
  14. sovereigngrace

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    The truth of God is so liberating.
     
  15. keras

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    The OT saints lived their lives, then died and now remain in their graves. Proved by Acts of the Apostles 13:36, where David 'sleeps'.
    They all, and everyone who has ever lived and died; await the Last Trumpet call to arise and stand before God in Judgment. Revelation 20:11-15
    Then; the Book of Life will be opened and all those whose names are found Written in it will receive Immortality. The rest - annihilation.

    There is none of that speculative nonsense of 'paradise', or anyone living in heaven, such ideas are fables and should not be part of any thinking persons beliefs.
     
  16. Douggg

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    If Abraham had salvation in Jesus, His death and resurrection three days later for propitiation of sin - then why did Abraham sacrifice a ram instead of Issac?

    Is there any verse in the old testament that God would sacrifice His Own Son for propitiation for the sins of mankind?

    Also, why did them you say had salvation, without Jesus having died for their sins and rose again from the grave overcoming death - do animal sacrifices? Even so, in the temple?

    And don't you say that if another temple is built where sacrifices are done would be an affront to God? Because salvation is based on the shed blood of Jesus, and not animal sacrifices.
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    Abraham and all in the old testament did not have salvation - they had hope for salvation, and they had faith in God which righteousness, not salvation, was credited to them.

    The story of Lazarus and the rich man, Abraham and Lazarus were not in heaven, but paradise.

    When Jesus brought back Lazarus from the dead, did Lazarus testify of what it was like in heaven?
     
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    No, it is you saying that them in the old testament had salvation, not me. I have been saying them in the old testament had hope of salvation.

    So it is you who is saying that them in the old testament had a different way of salvation, since you are saying they already had salvation.

    Yes, I hear that. But it is inconsistent with your position that them in the old testament already had salvation.
     
  18. Douggg

    Douggg anytime rapture, non-dispensationalist, futurist

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    Those verses in Luke are after Jesus's resurrection.

    Before the cross and Jesus's resurrection, the fundamental parts of the gospel of salvation that Jesus would suffer and die and rise again on the third day were told to the disciples - but the understanding was held from them. God's plan of salvation was kept a secret from understanding from everyone until after the resurrection.

    Before the cross and resurrection, same book of Luke... chapter 18.

    31 Then he took unto him the twelve, and said unto them, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem, and all things that are written by the prophets concerning the Son of man shall be accomplished.

    32 For he shall be delivered unto the Gentiles, and shall be mocked, and spitefully entreated, and spitted on:

    33 And they shall scourge him, and put him to death: and the third day he shall rise again.

    34 And they understood none of these things: and this saying was hid from them, neither knew they the things which were spoken.

    The above verses were before the cross and resurrection. They did not have the Holy Spirit in them, at that point in time.

    John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

    16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

    17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.


    John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
     
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    Once again, you are not addressing any of my arguments or Scriptures. You are also totally ignoring the revelation the Old Testament saints enjoyed re the life, death and resurrection of Christ. What is more, you do not seem to grasp the whole importance of shadows and types in the Old Testament. I would recommend you read the book of Hebrews.

    We have vivid detail in the Old Testament (hundreds of yrs before Christ came) of exactly what Messiah would be like. These were perfectly fulfilled in the person of Jesus Christ.

    Christ’s First Advent Predicted

    Isaiah 7:14 says, “Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel...”

    Do you literally believe Messiah is going be born of "a virgin" and His name called "Immanuel” (God with us) (Isaiah 7:14)?

    Matthew 1:20-23 says, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost. And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins. Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.”

    Isaiah 9:6-7 says, “For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called, Wonderful, Counsellor, The Mighty God, The Everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and of peace there shall be no end.”

    Luke 1:30-33 records, “the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God. And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS. He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.”

    Micah 5:2-4 says, But thou Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall He come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from old, from everlasting.”

    Hosea 11:1 says, “...out of Egypt I called my son.”

    Jeremiah 31:15 says, “Thus saith the LORD; A voice was heard in Ramah, lamentation, and bitter weeping; Rahel weeping for her children refused to be comforted for her children, because they were not.”

    Matthew 2:1 tells us: Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king.”

    Matthew 2:13-14: behold, the angel of the Lord appeareth to Joseph in a dream, saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and flee into Egypt, and be thou there until I bring thee word: for Herod will seek the young child to destroy him. When he arose, he took the young child and his mother by night, and departed into Egypt.”

    Matthew 2:16-21 says “Then Herod, when he saw that he was mocked of the wise men, was exceeding wroth, and sent forth, and slew all the children that were in Bethlehem, and in all the coasts thereof, from two years old and under, according to the time which he had diligently inquired of the wise men. Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremy the prophet, saying, In Rama was there a voice heard, lamentation, and weeping, and great mourning, Rachel weeping for her children, and would not be comforted, because they are not. But when Herod was dead, behold, an angel of the Lord appeareth in a dream to Joseph in Egypt, Saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and go into the land of Israel: for they are dead which sought the young child's life. And he arose, and took the young child and his mother, and came into the land of Israel.”

    The prophet Malachi predicted in the Old Testament that Christ would come suddenly to his temple. Listen to what he said in Malachi 3:1: “the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts.”

    Zechariah 9:9 says, “Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he is just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.”

    Luke 19:35-38 says, “And they brought him to Jesus: and they cast their garments upon the colt, and they set Jesus thereon. And as he went, they spread their clothes in the way. And when he was come nigh, even now at the descent of the mount of Olives, the whole multitude of the disciples began to rejoice and praise God with a loud voice for all the mighty works that they had seen; Saying, Blessed be the King that cometh in the name of the Lord: peace in heaven, and glory in the highest.”

    There are numerous others!!!

    His betrayal

    Psalm 41:9: “Yea, mine own familiar friend, in whom I trusted, which did eat of my bread, hath lifted up his heel against me.”

    Jesus said in John 13:18: “I speak not of you all: I know whom I have chosen: but that the scripture may be fulfilled, He that eateth bread with me hath lifted up his heel against me.”

    Zechariah 11:12-13 predicted Judas and the price that he would pay to betray the Master, saying, If ye think good, give me my price; and if not, forbear. So they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver. And the LORD said unto me, Cast it unto the potter: a goodly price that I was prised at of them. And I took the thirty pieces of silver, and cast them to the potter in the house of the LORD.”

    Matt 27:3: Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders.”

    The death of Christ

    God foreshadowed Christ’s atoning sacrifice on Calvary in Genesis 3:15. “I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.”

    The bruising of Satan’s head by Christ broke the power sin over the penitent sinner. Jesus made a way of escape for us.

    Psalms 22:12-18: “Many bulls have compassed me: strong bulls of Bashan have beset me round. They gaped upon me with their mouths, as a ravening and a roaring lion. I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint: my heart is like wax; it is melted in the midst of my bowels. My strength is dried up like a potsherd; and my tongue cleaveth to my jaws; and thou hast brought me into the dust of death. For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet. I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me. They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.”

    At Calvary the guilt of our sins was transferred or imputed to Christ. Our penalty was laid upon Him. He was condemned on our behalf in order that we could be free.

    Isaiah 53:3-7 says, “He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not. Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.”

    Isaiah 53:9-12 says, And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth. Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand. He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities. Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.”

    Daniel 9:24-26 predicts, “Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself.”

    Ezekiel 36:26-27: “A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.”

    Ezekiel 37:26-28: “I will make a covenant of peace with them; it shall be an everlasting covenant with them: and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore. My tabernacle also shall be with them: yea, I will be their God, and they shall be my people. And the heathen shall know that I the LORD do sanctify Israel, when my sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore."

    Jeremiah 31:31-34 says: “Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD: But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD; for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.”

    This is pointing us straight to Christ and His once all-sufficient sacrifice at the cross. Thank God, its benefits are still active today. This event is ongoing and relates to the intra-Advent period. It is not simply a future event.

    Jeremiah 32:38-40: “And they shall be my people, and I will be their God: And I will give them one heart, and one way, that they may fear me for ever, for the good of them, and of their children after them: And I will make an everlasting covenant with them, that I will not turn away from them, to do them good; but I will put my fear in their hearts, that they shall not depart from me.”

    Zechariah 12:10 says, And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.”

    Matthew 27:27-35: “Then the soldiers of the governor took Jesus into the common hall, and gathered unto him the whole band of soldiers. And they stripped him, and put on him a scarlet robe. And when they had platted a crown of thorns, they put it upon his head, and a reed in his right hand: and they bowed the knee before him, and mocked him, saying, Hail, King of the Jews! And they spit upon him, and took the reed, and smote him on the head. And after that they had mocked him, they took the robe off from him, and put his own raiment on him, and led him away to crucify him. And as they came out, they found a man of Cyrene, Simon by name: him they compelled to bear his cross. And when they were come unto a place called Golgotha, that is to say, a place of a skull, They gave him vinegar to drink mingled with gall: and when he had tasted thereof, he would not drink. And they crucified him, and parted his garments, casting lots: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, They parted my garments among them, and upon my vesture did they cast lots.”

    I could go on and on this morn. Why should we consider these?

    Well you will find the answer in Ecclesiastes 1:9: “The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.”

    The God of the OT is still our God. If He was faithful with all His promises in the past then He will be faithful with all of his promises today.
     
  20. sovereigngrace

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    Psalms 16:8-11: I have set the LORD always before me: because he is at my right hand, I shall not be moved. Therefore my heart is glad, and my glory rejoiceth: my flesh also shall rest in hope. For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. Thou wilt shew me the path of life: in thy presence is fulness of joy; at thy right hand there are pleasures for evermore.”

    Paul makes a passing allusion to Psalms 16:10. After speaking about Christ’s great triumphant over death and the grave, through His glorious resurrection to the throne, Paul then quotes Isaiah 55:3, which says, “Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David.” He shows the resurrection as the fulfilment of this great prophecy.

    Hosea 6:1-2: “Come, and let us return unto the LORD: for he hath torn, and he will heal us; he hath smitten, and he will bind us up. After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.

    Hosea 13:14: I will ransom them from the power of the grave; I will redeem them from death: O death, I will be thy plagues; O grave, I will be thy destruction: repentance shall be hid from mine eyes.”

    Isaiah 25:8-9: He will swallow up death in victory; and the Lord GOD will wipe away tears from off all faces; and the rebuke of his people shall he take away from off all the earth: for the LORD hath spoken it. And it shall be said in that day, Lo, this is our God; we have waited for him, and he will save us: this is the LORD; we have waited for him, we will be glad and rejoice in his salvation.”

    Psalms 16:8-11: I have set the LORD always before me: because he is at my right hand, I shall not be moved. Therefore my heart is glad, and my glory rejoiceth: my flesh also shall rest in hope. For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. Thou wilt shew me the path of life: in thy presence is fulness of joy; at thy right hand there are pleasures for evermore.”

    Psalms 132:11: The LORD hath sworn in truth unto David; he will not turn from it; Of the fruit of thy body will I set upon thy throne.”

    Psalms 68:18: Thou hast ascended on high, thou hast led captivity captive: thou hast received gifts for men; yea, for the rebellious also, that the LORD God might dwell among them.”

    Isaiah 66:1 says, “Thus saith the LORD, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool.”
     
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