1x1x1=1 Is a Flawed Trinity Formula

[Islam_mulia]

In one of the threads, Montalban wrote:

Do the maths to work out the Trinity is true

1 x 1 x 1 = 1

I don't have to eplain further.

This is really a flawed mathematical formula to explain the Trinity (which itself a man-made concept which was never mentioned by Jesus).

How is it flawed, mathematically impossible to explain the Trinity:

The equation 1x1x1=1 is used to describe how Jesus, the Father, and the Spirit are all one.

Assuming that each '1' in the equation represents a form of God, lets look at the equation with the proper terms... variables.

Jesus will be A
the Father will be B
and the Spirit will be C

AxBxC=ABC

Is that how the Trinity is defined?

 

[arunma]

I'm surprised that an Orthodox Christian would say that. The Trinity is a mystery, and it's beyond our comprehension. 1x1x1 might as well be 1x1x1x1x1. All I know is that God the Father begot God the Son in eternity, and that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father.

 

[lilithrising]

and no matter how hard you try, it cannot be proven or verified. Therefore, we are still supposed to believe it.


lilithrising

 

[ContraMundum]

This is really a flawed mathematical formula to explain the Trinity (which itself a man-made concept which was never mentioned by Jesus).

Jesus did mention the Trinity. He told us so when He gave us the rite of baptism, "Baptising them in the Name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit". The Greek is concise here, one name, three persons.

How is it flawed, mathematically impossible to explain the Trinity

I'll go one further than that: It is humanly impossible to explain the Trinity.

 

[Montalban]

I'm surprised that an Orthodox Christian would say that. The Trinity is a mystery, and it's beyond our comprehension. 1x1x1 might as well be 1x1x1x1x1. All I know is that God the Father begot God the Son in eternity, and that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father.

Actually he's being very very dishonest. He's taken my comments out of the context of a thread where someone made a very simple statement of faith, going

this is it, I don't have to say any more.

I gave him the same 'type' of argument back. The "I don't have to explain furher" was a verbatim of his own post.

Just like someone said that Islam is proved, and then gave me an Islamic web-site which had a general introduction to Islam, so I 'proved' Chrisitanity, by replying with a general Orthodoxy site.

It was here an attempt to show the weakness of his argument.

 

[ContraMundum]

and no matter how hard you try, it cannot be proven or verified. Therefore, we are still supposed to believe it.


lilithrising

Coming to understand, as far as is humanly possible, in the Trinity is not something you can just work out over beer and pretzels at your friend's place while watching the Simpsons, if you get my drift.

You need to study the whole of the Sacred Scriptures, Old and New Testaments. Christians believe that this entire revelation teaches the Trinity.

Good luck in your search/research. It is hard work.

 

[Montalban]

In one of the threads, Montalban wrote:

Is that how the Trinity is defined?

Why don't you let everyone know which post and thread, so they can see the context of my statement.

You have been very dishonest by taking it out of the context of that thread.

 

[Iron Lion]

1/3 + 1/3 + 1/3 = 1


you can try anything and its still not gonna prove Any thing.

1+1+1= 1

never gonna get anywhere

 

[Montalban]

1/3 + 1/3 + 1/3 = 1
you can try anything and its still not gonna prove Any thing.

It was not a 'proof' of the Trinity. You should read all the posts (viz mine) to see that this whole thread has been one dishonest straw-man.

1+1+1= 1

never gonna get anywhere

AND
It won't because it equals 3, not 1

 

[Montalban]

If anyone actually wishes to see where I have used the 1x1x1 on a totally different occasion, you can visit
http://www.christianforums.com/t1172707-concept-of-god-in-christianity.html&page=2
Where it is but one line of a three part 'paper' on the topic of the Trinity.

The throw-away I used above, I must repeat was in the context of showing-up a very very weak argument by a Moslem poster.

 

[Iron Lion]

montal, i agree with you 100%.

i was just joking around in my post in genral because of how many times ive seen this debate has been brought up

 

[Montalban]

montal, i agree with you 100%.

i was just joking around in my post in genral because of how many times ive seen this debate has been brought up

I apologise if I seem embittered...I am a bit angered at the total lack of honesty displayed in the opening post; it is clearly implying that the quote is my summation of trinitarian belief.

It is dishonest because it is a straw-man, and he's not even allowed people to see which thread/post it's from to see the context.

I am so annoyed I will not address this thread any more.

 

[satay]

I'm surprised that an Orthodox Christian would say that. The Trinity is a mystery, and it's beyond our comprehension. 1x1x1 might as well be 1x1x1x1x1. All I know is that God the Father begot God the Son in eternity, and that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father.

Strangely, I was told the same by a christian that 1*1*1 = 1 is trinity. This is a flawed logic. I am surprised that christians use this logic to define trinity.

Trinity is mystery...is that your opinion or is that supported by scripture? Or let me first ask...is trinity mentioned in the scripture?

satay

 

[satay]

and no matter how hard you try, it cannot be proven or verified. Therefore, we are still supposed to believe it.


lilithrising

Just like in another thread (shudra/dalits) we are told that Christianity is true but obviously we can not prove it. But it's true!

satay

 

[Bevlina]

OP taking a post from another thread out of context.