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100 FACTS ABOUT THE SABBATH AND SUNDAY WORSHIP

Discussion in 'Sabbath and The Law' started by LoveGodsWord, Jan 25, 2019.

  1. LoveGodsWord

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    Hello brother Cribstyl, nice to see you and welcome back.

    We are all need to be novices (I am speaking of myself) and become like little children asking JESUS to be our teacher and contiune in God's WORD claiming his promises to know God's WORD as spiritual things are spiritually discerned *MARK 18:3; JOHN 14:26; 16:13; 7:17; 8:31-36. JESUS wants promises to be our guide and teacher if we continue in his Word claiming the new COVENANT promises *HEBREWS 8:11. Some comments for consideration below brothher.
    Brother God did indeed give His written LAW (10 Commandments) to MOSES to give to his people. However, GOD'S LAW (10 commandments) was the WORK of GOD alone. It was SPOKEN by GOD alone to his people *EXODUS 20:1-17. It was the writing of God alone to his people and the WORK of GOD alone to his people *

    EXODUS 31:18 And he gave to Moses, when he had made an end of communing with him on mount Sinai, two tables of testimony, tables of stone, WRITTEN WITH THE FINGER OF GOD.

    EXODUS 20:1-17 And GOD SPOKE ALL THESE WORDS SAYING.......

    EXODUS 32:16, And THE TABLES WERE THE WORK OF GOD AND THE WRITING WAS THE WRITING OF GOD GRAVEN ON THE TABLES.

    Whatever God does is FOREVER. God's ETERNAL LAW (10 commandments) are the WORK AND WRITING OF GOD ALONE *EXODUS 32:26 as well as the SPOKEN WORD OF GOD which is FOREVER...

    Work (writing on stone) of God *EXODUS 31:18....

    ECCLESIASTES 3:14, I know that, WHATSOEVER GOD DOES, IT SHALL BE FOREVER: nothing can be put to it, nor any thing taken from it: and God does it, that men should fear before him.

    Spoken by God *EXODUS 20:1-17

    ISAIAH 40:8, The grass wither, the flower fades: but THE WORD OF OUR GOD SHALL STAND FOREVER.

    LUKE 21:33, Heaven and earth shall pass away: but MY WORDS SHALL NOT PASS AWAY

    1 PETER 1:23...having been born again, not of corruptible seed but incorruptible, through the word of God which lives and abides forever...

    God's LAW (10 commandments) are both the SPOKEN WORD of GOD and the WORK of GOD which God's WORD says are FOREVER.

    MATTHEW 5:18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle [a tiny mark in the original spelling of a word] will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled." Matthew 5:18

    LUKE 16:17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for one tittle of the law to fail.

    According to GOD'S WORD in the NEW TESTAMENT, God's LAW (10 Commandments) in the NEW COVENANT has the same role it always had and that is to give us the KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL; SIN and RIGHTOEUSNESS *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; 1 JOHN 3:4; PSALMS 119:172 to lead us to CHRIST that we might be FORGIVEN by FAITH in God's promises *GALATIANS 3:22-25; 2 PETER 1:4

    Blessings brother.
     
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  2. LoveGodsWord

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    Well it was actually both. God's WORD was given to JEREMIAH by the HOLY SPIRIT to speak to God's people in the name of the LORD *JAMES 5:10; HEBREWS 1:1; EPHESIANS 3:5; 2 PETER 1:21

    Indeed the scriptures say that the NEW COVENANT is not like the OLD COVENANT *JEREMIAH 31:32; HEBREWS 8:5-13.

    Many only tell half the story and do not know what the OLD COVENANT is. If we do not know what the OLD COVENANT is how can we know what the NEW COVENAN is that the OLD COVENANT points to?

    No one is telling you brother that God's ETERNAL LAW (10 commandments) were not a part of the OLD COVENANT. The mistake of many is in thinking God's LAW (10 commandments) by themselves the OLD COVENANT. They were not.

    God's WORD says that the OLD COVENANT was made up of 1. GOD'S LAW (10 Commandments) and 2. the MOSAIC BOOK of the OLD COVENANT *EXODUS 24:7

    THE SCRIPTURES FOR THE MOSAIC BOOK OF THE OLD COVENANT

    EXODUS 24 [7], And he took the BOOK OF THE COVENANT, and read in the audience of the people: and they said, All that the LORD has said will we do, and be obedient.

    DEUTERONOMY 29 [21], And the LORD shall separate him to evil out of all the tribes of Israel, according to all the curses of the COVENANT THAT ARE WRITTEN IN THIS BOOK OF THE LAW.

    DEUTERONOMY 31 [26], Take this BOOK OF THE LAW, and put it in the SIDE OF THE ARK OF THE COVENANT of the LORD your God, that it may be there for a witness against you.

    2 KINGS 23 [2], And the king went up into the house of the LORD, and all the men of Judah and all the inhabitants of Jerusalem with him, and the priests, and the prophets, and all the people, both small and great: and HE READ IN THEIR EARS ALL THE WORDS OF THE BOOK OF THE COVENANT which was found in the house of the LORD.

    2 KINGS 23 [3], And the king stood by a pillar, and made a covenant before the LORD, to walk after the LORD, and to keep his commandments and his testimonies and his statutes with all their heart and all their soul, TO PERFORM THE WORDS OF THIS COVENANT THAT WERE WRITTEN IN THIS BOOK. And all the people stood to the covenant.

    2 KINGS 23 [21], And the king commanded all the people, saying, KEEP THE PASSOVER OF THE LORD your God, AS IT IS WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF THIS COVENANT.

    2 CHRONICLES 34 [30], And the king went up into the house of the LORD, and all the men of Judah, and the inhabitants of Jerusalem, and the priests, and the Levites, and all the people, great and small: and HE READ IN THEIR EARS ALL THE WORDS OF THE BOOK OF THE COVENANT that was found in the house of the LORD.

    2 CHRONICLES 34 [31] And the king stood in his place, and made a covenant before the LORD, to walk after the LORD, and to keep his commandments, and his testimonies, and his statutes, with all his heart, and with all his soul, TO PERFORM THE WORDS OF THE COVENANT WHICH ARE WRITTEN IN THE BOOK.

    .................

    CONCLUSION: The OLD COVENANT was made up of two sets of laws which included 1. GOD'S ETERNAL LAW (10 Commandments) and 2. The MOSAIC SHADOW laws from the MOSAIC BOOK of the COVENANT.

    Both these sets of LAWS had very different PURPOSES under the OLD Covenant.

    1. GOD'S ETERNAL LAW (10 Commandments) had the same role as it does in the NEW COVENANT and that is to provide us with a KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL; SIN and RIGHTEOUSNESS *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; 1 JOHN 3:4; PSALMS 119:172.

    2. The MOSAIC SHADOW laws from the BOOK OF THE COVENANT of laws and ORDINANCES which included the CIVIL, CEREMONIAL and ECCLESIASTICAL laws were laws for the REMISSION or FORGIVENESS of sin which included the Leviticial PRIESTHOOD and ORDINACES for sin offerings for the SNACTUARY SERVICE. PRIESTHOOD, SACRIFICAL SIN OFFERINGS for FORGIVENESS OF SIN.

    Hope this helps.
     
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    God's COVENANT with God's people that he saved from the Egyptians is not made with our farthers. BEFORE SINA God's people had the SPOKEN WORD of GOD. At Sina forward we have the written WORD of God.

    As shown through the scriptures earlier the OLD COVENANT includes both Gods ETERNAL LAW (10 commandments) *EXODUS 34:28 and the SHADOW laws from the MOSAIC BOOK OF THE OLD COVENANT * EXODUS 24:7; DEUTERONOMY 29:21; DEUTERONOMY 31:26; 2 KINGS 23:2; 2 KINGS 23:32 KINGS 23:21; 2 CHRONICLES 34:30; 2 CHRONICLES 34:31 that pointed to JESUS and God's plan of salvation in the NEW COVENANT.

    The NEW COVENANT is not like the OLD COVENANT. No more animal sacrifices and sin offerings, ceremonial Sanctually laws and Levitcal Priesthood which all pointed to JESUS and God's plan of salvation under the NEW COVENANT.

    GOD'S ETERNAL LAW (10 commandments) under the NEW COVENANT has the same role they always had and that is to lead us to CHRIST that we might be FORGIVEN by FAITH *GALATIANS 3:22-25; GOD'S ETERNAL LAW (10 Commandments) is the KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL; SIN and RIGHTOUESNESS *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; 1 JOHN 3:4; PSALMS 119:172. God's WORD says if we break ANY ONE of God's 10 commandments we stand guilty before GOD of SIN *JAMES 2:10-11.

    God's 4th COMMANDMENT is one of the 10 commandments that give us the KNOWLEDGE of SIN when broken *ROMANS 3:20.

    *MATTHEW 23:27-28. JESUS says; For I say unto you, that except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no wise enter into the kingdom of heaven *MATTHEW 5:20. The scripture in ISAIAH 42:21 was posted to show that JESUS came to teach the true meaning of God's LAW and that is it is to be applied to the ISIDE OUT not for OUT SIDE IN appearance to appear rightouess to men but inwardly full of SIN. God reads the HEART and KNOWS we are all sick with SIN *MATTHEW 15:19-20; MATTHEW 12:34-35; JEREMIAH 13:23; JEREMIAH 17:9-10; MATTHEW 15:19-20; JOHN 5:42 and in need of a Savior from SIN. Many do not know the meaning here MATTHEW 9:12-13.

    This is leading to the NEW COVENANT PROMISE of a NEW HEART to LOVE *HEBREWS 8:10-12; JOHN 5:42; 1 JOHN 5:17-19; 1 JOHN 4:16; 1 JOHN 5:3; 1 JOHN 4:8.

    We do not have the LOVE of GOD in us *JOHN 5:42. We need to be BORN OF GOD to LOVE *1 JOHN 4:7 and partake of the NEW COVENANT promise. This is why JESUS teaches in *JOHN 3:3-7 that UNLESS we are made CLEAN from the INSIDE OUT and BORN AGAIN to LOVE we cannot enter the KINGDOM of HEAVEN. This is what JESUS is talking about in MATTHEW 5:20 when discussing the Scribes and the Pharisees teaching the application of God's LAW from the INSIDE OUT. Whosoever is BORN of GOD to LOVE in the NEW COVENANT *HEBREWS 8:10-12 does not commit SIN *1 JOHN 3:9; ROMANS 13:8-10; JAMES 2:8-12; ROMANS 3:31; MATTHEW 22:36-40. This is the GOOD NEWS of the Gospels in the NEW COVENANT we have a SAVIOUR to save us from sin (not in sin) but we have to be made new to walk in God's Spirit *GALATIANS 5:16; ROMANS 8:1-4.

    1 JOHN 3:3-10 is talking about all those who are BORN AGAIN to LOVE and it is LOVE that fulfills God's LAW in all those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's WORD in the NEW COVENANT *HEBREWS 8:10-12; ROMANS 13:8-10. This results in a people that keep God's LAW (10 commandments) from the INSIDE OUT. *REVELATION 14:12; REVELATION 22:14; 1 JOHN 2:3-4; 1 JOHN 3:3-10; ROMANS 13:8-10; ROMANS 3:31; HEBREWS 8:10-12.

    May God help you as you seek him through his WORD. Unless we are BORN AGAIN to LOVE we cannot enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN *JOHN 3:3-7. he that has ears let him hear.

    God's Sheep hear his Voice (the Word)
     
  4. Cribstyl

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    Don't you believe that Abraham kept the Ten?
     
  5. LoveGodsWord

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    Hello brother Cribstyl; yes

    God's WORD says;

    GENESIS 26:5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.

    The HEBREW WORD used here for laws (plural) is TORAH which is made up of God's LAW (10 commandments and the sacrifical laws for sin).

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    DEUTERONOMY 5:3 The LORD made not this covenant with our fathers, but with us, even us, who are all of us here alive this day.

    The WORD COVENANT simply means agreement. The COVENANT or agreement was between God’s people that were rescued from EGYPT and not with the fathers this day.

    The scripture here is simply stating that God had made this COVENANT agreement with his people that were ALIVE in HOREB who were taken out of Egypt this day. The agreement or OLD COVENANT was to KEEP AND OBEY the TORAH which was made up of God’s LAW (10 commandments) and the SHADOW laws from the MOSAIC BOOK of the COVENANT (EXODUS 34:28; EXODUS 24:7)

    An agreement or COVENANT takes two parties who enter into an agreement...

    EXODUS 19:3-8
    [3] And Moses went up to God, and the LORD called to him out of the mountain, saying, thus shall you say to the house of Jacob, and tell the children of Israel;
    [4], You have seen what I did to the Egyptians, and how I bore you on eagles' wings, and brought you to myself.
    [5], Now therefore, if you will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then you shall be a peculiar treasure to me above all people: for all the earth is mine:
    [6], And you shall be to me a kingdom of priests, and a holy nation. These are the words which you shall speak to the children of Israel.
    [7[, And Moses came and called for the elders of the people and laid before their faces all these words which the LORD commanded him.
    [8], And all the people answered together, and said, all that the LORD has spoken we will do. And Moses returned the words of the people to the LORD.

    EXODUS 24:7
    And he took the book of the covenant and read in the audience of the people: and they said, all that the LORD has said will we do, and be obedient.

    ………….

    CONCLUSION: DEUTEROMY 5:3 was simply stating that the written COVENANT of God’s LAW (10 commandment) and the MOSAIC BOOK of the COVENANT were to God’s people who were alive this day and that God’s people of the day entered into COVENANT with God to BELIEVE and FOLLOW his WORD.

    God bless.
     
  6. Dave L

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    We base everything on the written word. No written word = false teaching.
     
  7. LoveGodsWord

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    INDEED. The same as cherry picking scripture and ignoring the rest of scriopture in order to follow the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God = false teachings. JESUS says those who follow the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of GOD are not following God *MATTHEW 15:3-9. Only God's WORD is true brother and we should believe and follow it *ROMANS 3:4
     
  8. Dave L

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    That's OK. Just state your claim without ignoring the rest of scripture and all will be well.
     
  9. LoveGodsWord

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    Sadly it is not me that is ignoring the scriptures brother. You have only been provided God's WORD showing your errors in your interpretation of what the OLD COVENANT is by providing the scriptures you leave out of the understanding of what makes up God's OLD COVENANT.

    Your error is that you mix up God's ETERNAL LAW (10 Commandments) with the SHADOW laws from the MOSAIC BOOK of the OLD COEVENANT *EXODUS 24:7 that point to JESUS and God's plan of salvation in the NEW COVENANT. If you do not know what the OLD COVENANT is how can you know what the NEW COVENANT is that the OLD COVENANT points to?

    God's ETERNAL LAW (10 commandments) has the same role it always has and that is to give us the KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL; SIN and RIGHTOUESNESS *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; 1 JOHN 3:4; PSALMS 119:172.

    As shown through the scriptures earlier the OLD COVENANT includes both Gods ETERNAL LAW (10 commandments) *EXODUS 34:28 and the SHADOW laws from the MOSAIC BOOK OF THE OLD COVENANT * EXODUS 24:7; DEUTERONOMY 29:21; DEUTERONOMY 31:26; 2 KINGS 23:2; 2 KINGS 23:3; 2 KINGS 23:21; 2 CHRONICLES 34:30; 2 CHRONICLES 34:31 that pointed to JESUS and God's plan of salvation in the NEW COVENANT. Together it is God's LAW (10 Commandments) and the MOSAIC BOOK OF THE COVENANT *EXODUS 24:7 that make up the OLD COVENANT. Check the scriptures provided. Ignoring God's WORD does not make it disappear.

    The NEW COVENANT is not like the OLD COVENANT. No more animal sacrifices and sin offerings, ceremonial Sanctually laws and Levitcal Priesthood which all pointed to JESUS and God's plan of salvation under the NEW COVENANT.

    God bless.
     
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  10. Dave L

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    We still have a problem with you rejecting Jeremiah.
     
  11. LoveGodsWord

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    Then believe the scriptures. It is you rejecting JEREMIAH not me. We are in the NEW COVENANT now not the OLD COVENANT. The NEW COVENANT is not like the OLD. No more SHADOW laws from the MOSAIC BOOK of the OLD COVENANT *EXODUS 24:7. No more animal sacrifices and sin offerings, ceremonial Sanctually laws and Levitcal Priesthood which all pointed to JESUS and God's plan of salvation under the NEW COVENANT.

    God's ETERNAL LAW (10 commandments) has the same role it always has and that is to give us the KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL; SIN and RIGHTOUESNESS *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; 1 JOHN 3:4; PSALMS 119:172.

    If you do not know what the OLD COVENANT is how can you know what the NEW COVENANT is that the OLD COVENANT points to?

    God bless.
     
  12. Dave L

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    Interpretations are not Scripture. Scripture is scripture.
     
  13. LoveGodsWord

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    INDEED that is why we should BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's WORD and not cherry pick scripture and ignore the rest of scriopture in order to follow the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God. JESUS says those who follow the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of GOD are not following God *MATTHEW 15:3-9. Only God's WORD is true brother and we should believe and follow it *ROMANS 3:4
     
  14. Dave L

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    We should not cherry pick scripture to suit our interpretations and biases.
     
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    INDEED, Only God's WORD is true brother and we should believe and follow it over the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God *ROMANS 3:4. JESUS says those who follow the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of GOD are not following God *MATTHEW 15:3-9. In times of IGNORANCE God winks at but when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come calls all men everywhere to repent and BELIEVE and FOLLOW his WORD.
     
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    This is biased interpretation in an effort to prove a lie about the Old Covenant.
     
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    Not at all you have been provided God's WORD and you have chosen to ignore it. I will leave that between you and God. Only God's WORD is true brother and we should believe and follow it. *ROMANS 3:4. These are God's WORD not mine. You provide your own words therefore your argument is between you and God.
    If you do not know what the OLD COVENANT is how can you know what the NEW COVENANT is that the OLD COVENANT points to?

    God bless.
     
  18. Dave L

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    The word properly understood is true. You have a denominational slant in your interpretations that does not appear in the whole of Christendom.
     
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    Not at all brother. You have been shown the scriptures you leave out of your interpretation of the OLD COVENANT. These are God's WORD not mine. Ignoring God's WORD does not make it dissappear. Your claims are false ones and that is the reason you will not respond to my posts and the scriptures in them that disagree with you. If you do not know what the OLD COVENANT was how can you understand what the NEW COVENANT is that the OLD COVENANT points to? Ignoring God's WORD does not make it disappear.
     
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    You are SDA. You must see things the way they do even if it contradicts scripture and all of Christendom.
     
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