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Lets open some great verses, starting here.

1 Peter 2:24

""" (Jesus) Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed." ...

1. Jesus is GOD.

So, God his own self bore your sins.
Which?
All of them. He didn't miss any.
So, who has them if God bore them, if God "became your sin" ?
Who has them?
Do you have them? or...... Does Jesus have them all?
Jesus said that his shed blood, death, and resurrection is a "one time Eternal Sacrifice"...
So, is that true, or is it just part time, until you confess your sin and repent again?

If you still have sin..... If you HAVE IT.......not commit "works of the flesh"....not be a bad liitle girl or a bad little boy, but if you HAVE SIN......... then you are not born again.

So, again....
Who has it? Who HAS All your sin and has paid for it all with His ONE TIME ETERNAL Sacrifice. ????
Saint.....God has it, because God as Jesus on the Cross "became it and bore it."
1.) Final Answer.

Now what has happened to you, so that when you do something wrong, you have this always in play. = "Blessed is the person to whom GOD will not charge you with your sin".
Thats you if you are born again.
That is Roman's 4:8, and i paraphrased it slightly for emphasis.
And Why would God not charge you with your sin ever again?
Well, Saint, how can God charge you for them, when God Himself bore them and died for them all?
See it?
Can God justly charge you later, after you die..... for what He Himself has already resolved for you 2000 yrs ago on the Cross, on Earth?
No.
Never.
God does not judge Himself on The Cross for you sin, and later after you are dead, judge you for the same.

2.) Notice next....>"dead to sins".

This means, you are relieved of Judgement for your sin, and delivered from the power of it.
"the power of sin, is the law", and you are no longer under the Law, you are "under Grace", if you are born again.
God's Grace is now your "Law", if you are born again.
God's Grace is now the "dominion" you are "under", if you are born again and not just water baptized.
"you are not under the law, you are "UNDER Grace", if you are born again.
Under its dominion.


Now here is the revelation that is a struggle to accept until you are truly mind renewed.
Its this.....
What use to be sin when you did it, when you were lost and under the law, is now, no longer charged to you if you do it now, and you will not be judged for it in Eternity.
Also, because you are not under the law, .. "sin" is not defined by the Law, anymore.
This is why Paul refers to all that behavior as "works of the Flesh".
Now that spiritual and eternal reality is like sandpaper to the carnal mind in a carnal Christian who is trying to earn their way to heaven.

So, let me widen that explanation..

3.) Paul later redefined "sin" as "works of the Flesh". And that is why Paul told you to "use not your liberty for an occasion to the FLESH".
"works of the Flesh".

And Paul did this because only the LAW can define you as a sinner and sin as SIN.
Remember this verse ?? "where there is no Law there IS NO Transgression (sin)".
So, if you are not "Under the law"..........
See it?

See, when there is no Law, there is no Transgression, as there is no Means to define it as such.
So, once you are not under the law, then the Law can't define you or your deeds, ever again.
You are now defined by GRACE, and Grace never sees you as anything but "MADE RIGHTEOUS." "The Righteousness of God In Christ". That is all the born again as a "new Creation".
See.... when you were under the law, the law had the right to define you and your deeds, and so, once you are not under the law, (born again).... then you and your deeds are REDEFINED by being "under Grace".

Grace is now in charge as a dominion that you exit within, if you are born again.
So, the way it works is......sin is now just a "work of the flesh", and the dominion of the law has no power over you, and cannot define you any longer as a sinner.
This is why the NT defines you as a SAINT.

Grace is GREATER than the Law, "where sin abounds GRACE MORE Abounds".. and it has authority over the Law, and God's Grace is become your dominion once you are born again, as its The RULE that operates the Kingdom of God.
You are IN THERE if you are born again. And in there, in the KOG... the rules and the idea about how you are defined in the Spirit Realm, are God's Spiritual rules, and you have to learn to see them and to see yourself as only being governed by them, at all times.
Those rules define you., as those rule are GOD's Perspective.


4.) . "live unto righteousness"""".

This means that you are made eternally alive= as "Spiritually One with God in Christ"
It does not mean you are to try to be good so that your behavior is evaluated as your righteousness or lack of it.
WE the born again, live AS "the Righteousness of God", and unto this we were born again to be. This is our "one with God" place in Eternity, in God's family.
The born again are better then good, we are "the righteousness of God, in Christ"
This is our Eternal Life as we are "IN CHRIST"< and Christ Himself is Eternal Life.

5.) . "In Christ".

This means that we are born again INTO the Holy Spirit by the Holy Spirit.
Our born again Spirit exists now as "ONE with God".... We are made Spiritually ALIVE, and joined to God, for eternity.
This is "eternal life" and it is not temporary.
Once you are born again, you are always born again, you always have Eternal Life, as you always have Jesus IN YOU< who Himself IS Eternal Life.
This spiritual reality is where you exist LITERALLY, if you are born again. Whereas the body and the earth and all you see, is not eternal reality. As it will all pass away, its all temporal..... And this is why you are told that you are in the world but not OF IT.
We are not "of it", we are just in it for a little while longer.
We are "OF" The Holy Spirit, "ONE with God". This is were we EXIT, Literally.
We are "translated from Darkness to LIGHT".....and that Light is GOD.
"ONE with God".
We exist IN the Kingdom of God while we live in a body on the earth, until we get our NEW body.

5. "By whose Stripes you WERE Healed""".

Why does it say "were healed". ??? Well, its because it happened for you 2000 yrs ago, but was applied later upon you.
So, you are made righteous and given eternal life, 2000 yrs ago, when God provided Salvation by The Cross and by the Blood of Christ.
You RECEIVED it , later. So, you WERE Healed, were saved, were made righteous by The Cross and the Blood and that was given 2000 yrs ago.

So, what was healed?
What was healed was your relationship with God.
God on The Cross took your sin away and God then allowed you to become "one with God".
Your relationship with God didn't exist until God reestablished it though His own Blood.
God's Blood did this for you 2000 yrs ago, and you received "the Gift of Salvation"< 2000 yrs after God provided it, Himself.

What is the end result?
= This "healing" keeps on healing. This Blood of God, keeps on Saving You.
It never stops redeeming you.
Its a constant cleansing.
The reason Romans 4:8 says that your sin is gone, not charged to you, even if you are bad today, is because God's Blood continues to HEAL and SAVE and REDEEM, you.
God's Blood is greater than your sin., always.
"where sin is found, Grace more abounds".

And how do you know that God's blood keeps you saved, keeps you sinless, keeps you "in Christ"?
Its because its Christ who is the reason for it all.
He is the reason God took you back. Jesus is the reason God will always keep you.
God's blood resolved all that was keeping you out of God's family, and this same Blood continues to do this for you, always and forever.
Jesus is the reason that God keeps you always. His BLood sacrifice is our ETERNAL REDEMPTION. A "ONE TIME" offereing.
Its the BLooD of Jesus that keeps on redeeming you, sanctifying you, justifying you.........yesterday and forever.

Hebrews 13:8

This verse says that Jesus is the same, yesterday, today, and forever.
So that means that what He causes, and what He does, also remains the same, yesterday, today, and forever.
So, this same Jesus, who bore and became your sin and made you right with God, .... this continues always...... as Jesus is the Same , yesterday, today, and forever.
Jesus is your Salvation.
Jesus is God's Grace, and Jesus is the same, yesterday, today, and forever.
So, what He has provided for you, does not change.... not yesterday, not today, not forever.
The Shed Blood of God, is Jesus providing to you "the gift of Righteousness" that God has accepted for you : "yesterday, today, and forever".
 

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Lets open some great verses, starting here.

1 Peter 2:24

""" (Jesus) Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed." ...

1. Jesus is GOD.

So, God his own self bore your sins.
Which?
All of them. He didn't miss any.
So, who has them if God bore them, if God "became your sin" ?
Who has them?
Do you have them? or...... Does Jesus have them all?
Jesus said that his shed blood, death, and resurrection is a "one time Eternal Sacrifice"...
So, is that true, or is it just part time, until you confess your sin and repent again?

If you still have sin..... If you HAVE IT.......not commit "works of the flesh"....not be a bad liitle girl or a bad little boy, but if you HAVE SIN......... then you are not born again.

So, again....
Who has it? Who HAS All your sin and has paid for it all with His ONE TIME ETERNAL Sacrifice. ????
Saint.....God has it, because God as Jesus on the Cross "became it and bore it."
1.) Final Answer.

Now what has happened to you, so that when you do something wrong, you have this always in play. = "Blessed is the person to whom GOD will not charge you with your sin".
Thats you if you are born again.
That is Roman's 4:8, and i paraphrased it slightly for emphasis.
And Why would God not charge you with your sin ever again?
Well, Saint, how can God charge you for them, when God Himself bore them and died for them all?
See it?
Can God justly charge you later, after you die..... for what He Himself has already resolved for you 2000 yrs ago on the Cross, on Earth?
No.
Never.
God does not judge Himself on The Cross for you sin, and later after you are dead, judge you for the same.

2.) Notice next....>"dead to sins".

This means, you are relieved of Judgement for your sin, and delivered from the power of it.
"the power of sin, is the law", and you are no longer under the Law, you are "under Grace", if you are born again.
God's Grace is now your "Law", if you are born again.
God's Grace is now the "dominion" you are "under", if you are born again and not just water baptized.
"you are not under the law, you are "UNDER Grace", if you are born again.
Under its dominion.


Now here is the revelation that is a struggle to accept until you are truly mind renewed.
Its this.....
What use to be sin when you did it, when you were lost and under the law, is now, no longer charged to you if you do it now, and you will not be judged for it in Eternity.
Also, because you are not under the law, .. "sin" is not defined by the Law, anymore.
This is why Paul refers to all that behavior as "works of the Flesh".
Now that spiritual and eternal reality is like sandpaper to the carnal mind in a carnal Christian who is trying to earn their way to heaven.

So, let me widen that explanation..

3.) Paul later redefined "sin" as "works of the Flesh". And that is why Paul told you to "use not your liberty for an occasion to the FLESH".
"works of the Flesh".

And Paul did this because only the LAW can define you as a sinner and sin as SIN.
Remember this verse ?? "where there is no Law there IS NO Transgression (sin)".
So, if you are not "Under the law"..........
See it?

See, when there is no Law, there is no Transgression, as there is no Means to define it as such.
So, once you are not under the law, then the Law can't define you or your deeds, ever again.
You are now defined by GRACE, and Grace never sees you as anything but "MADE RIGHTEOUS." "The Righteousness of God In Christ". That is all the born again as a "new Creation".
See.... when you were under the law, the law had the right to define you and your deeds, and so, once you are not under the law, (born again).... then you and your deeds are REDEFINED by being "under Grace".

Grace is now in charge as a dominion that you exit within, if you are born again.
So, the way it works is......sin is now just a "work of the flesh", and the dominion of the law has no power over you, and cannot define you any longer as a sinner.
This is why the NT defines you as a SAINT.

Grace is GREATER than the Law, "where sin abounds GRACE MORE Abounds".. and it has authority over the Law, and God's Grace is become your dominion once you are born again, as its The RULE that operates the Kingdom of God.
You are IN THERE if you are born again. And in there, in the KOG... the rules and the idea about how you are defined in the Spirit Realm, are God's Spiritual rules, and you have to learn to see them and to see yourself as only being governed by them, at all times.
Those rules define you., as those rule are GOD's Perspective.


4.) . "live unto righteousness"""".

This means that you are made eternally alive= as "Spiritually One with God in Christ"
It does not mean you are to try to be good so that your behavior is evaluated as your righteousness or lack of it.
WE the born again, live AS "the Righteousness of God", and unto this we were born again to be. This is our "one with God" place in Eternity, in God's family.
The born again are better then good, we are "the righteousness of God, in Christ"
This is our Eternal Life as we are "IN CHRIST"< and Christ Himself is Eternal Life.

5.) . "In Christ".

This means that we are born again INTO the Holy Spirit by the Holy Spirit.
Our born again Spirit exists now as "ONE with God".... We are made Spiritually ALIVE, and joined to God, for eternity.
This is "eternal life" and it is not temporary.
Once you are born again, you are always born again, you always have Eternal Life, as you always have Jesus IN YOU< who Himself IS Eternal Life.
This spiritual reality is where you exist LITERALLY, if you are born again. Whereas the body and the earth and all you see, is not eternal reality. As it will all pass away, its all temporal..... And this is why you are told that you are in the world but not OF IT.
We are not "of it", we are just in it for a little while longer.
We are "OF" The Holy Spirit, "ONE with God". This is were we EXIT, Literally.
We are "translated from Darkness to LIGHT".....and that Light is GOD.
"ONE with God".
We exist IN the Kingdom of God while we live in a body on the earth, until we get our NEW body.

5. "By whose Stripes you WERE Healed""".

Why does it say "were healed". ??? Well, its because it happened for you 2000 yrs ago, but was applied later upon you.
So, you are made righteous and given eternal life, 2000 yrs ago, when God provided Salvation by The Cross and by the Blood of Christ.
You RECEIVED it , later. So, you WERE Healed, were saved, were made righteous by The Cross and the Blood and that was given 2000 yrs ago.

So, what was healed?
What was healed was your relationship with God.
God on The Cross took your sin away and God then allowed you to become "one with God".
Your relationship with God didn't exist until God reestablished it though His own Blood.
God's Blood did this for you 2000 yrs ago, and you received "the Gift of Salvation"< 2000 yrs after God provided it, Himself.

What is the end result?
= This "healing" keeps on healing. This Blood of God, keeps on Saving You.
It never stops redeeming you.
Its a constant cleansing.
The reason Romans 4:8 says that your sin is gone, not charged to you, even if you are bad today, is because God's Blood continues to HEAL and SAVE and REDEEM, you.
God's Blood is greater than your sin., always.
"where sin is found, Grace more abounds".

And how do you know that God's blood keeps you saved, keeps you sinless, keeps you "in Christ"?
Its because its Christ who is the reason for it all.
He is the reason God took you back. Jesus is the reason God will always keep you.
God's blood resolved all that was keeping you out of God's family, and this same Blood continues to do this for you, always and forever.
Jesus is the reason that God keeps you always. His BLood sacrifice is our ETERNAL REDEMPTION. A "ONE TIME" offereing.
Its the BLooD of Jesus that keeps on redeeming you, sanctifying you, justifying you.........yesterday and forever.

Hebrews 13:8

This verse says that Jesus is the same, yesterday, today, and forever.
So that means that what He causes, and what He does, also remains the same, yesterday, today, and forever.
So, this same Jesus, who bore and became your sin and made you right with God, .... this continues always...... as Jesus is the Same , yesterday, today, and forever.
Jesus is your Salvation.
Jesus is God's Grace, and Jesus is the same, yesterday, today, and forever.
So, what He has provided for you, does not change.... not yesterday, not today, not forever.
The Shed Blood of God, is Jesus providing to you "the gift of Righteousness" that God has accepted for you : "yesterday, today, and forever".
Yes, God himself bore the punishment his own justice required for our sin.
Romans 3:25-26.
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Yes, God himself bore the punishment his own justice required for our sin.
Romans 3:25-26.

Thank you for summarizing Sidon's long,rambling post in a single sentence!
 
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Yes, God himself bore the punishment his own justice required for our sin.
Romans 3:25-26.
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Yes.

WE can't of ourselves make ourselves righteous, as we have sinned.
So, God came here to restore righteousness to us, as "the gift of Righteousness".
The restoration is : being Born again.
Being born again is proof we are reconciled to God.

If we are born again, then we have been "made righteous", and that is a Eternal Sitution.
As Eternal God has given us HIS Righteousness, and that is not a temporary situaiton.
Being "in Christ" is Eternal Life, and all the born again have this as : "the Gift of Salvation".
 
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