‘Mini AOC’ Doxxed And Threatened

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No, she was not looking out over a mainly empty parking lot. If you saw the overview of the property from the air, there is parking by the fence, but beyond that parking is the detention center. And it is a detention center where children are being neglected, are being cared for by 8 year olds or older, not adults, and who are lacking clean clothes, diapers, and decent food. It is disgusting!

Is the Inspector General of Homeland Security lying when his report says this:
Confusion at the Border - FactCheck.org

The IG report said it visited five Border Patrol facilities in the Rio Grande Valley Sector in Texas, including border stations in McAllen, Weslaco and Brownsville, and two processing centers. The IG found that the agency is violating its own standards for care.

“During our visits to five Border Patrol facilities and two ports of entry in the Rio Grande Valley, we reviewed compliance with CBP’s Transport, Escort, Detention and Search (TEDS) standards, which govern CBP’s interaction with detained individuals, and observed serious overcrowding and prolonged detention of unaccompanied alien children (UACs), families, and single adults that require immediate attention,” the report said.

Contrary to McAleenan’s claim that migrant children are receiving “appropriate meals,” the IG report said: “While all facilities had infant formula, diapers, baby wipes, and juice and snacks for children, we observed that two facilities had not provided children access to hot meals — as is required by the TEDS standards — until the week we arrived. Instead, the children were fed sandwiches and snacks for their meals.”.....​

As for McAleenan’s claim that children had access to “showers as soon as they can be provided,” the IG report found violations of the agency’s own standards.

“For example, children at three of the five Border Patrol facilities we visited had no access to showers, despite the TEDS standards requiring that ‘reasonable efforts’ be made to provide showers to children approaching 48 hours in detention,” the report said. “At these facilities, children had limited access to a change of clothes; Border Patrol had few spare clothes and no laundry facilities.”

The sanitary conditions were even worse for adults — including some who hadn’t had access to a shower for as long as a month.​

Other members of congress visited the same facility as AOC and also said that the drinking fountains on the back of the toilets were not working, and women said they were told to drink from the toilet.
Not acceptable.

Then there is the Trump administration lawyer trying to say that soap and toothbrushes were not required to provide a safe and sanitary environment.



So yeah, intended or not, that picture mocked the migrants. Just because the facility itself was not a few feet from the fence does not mean it was not so far away that it was not visible, or that people like AOC cannot feel compassion and sadness for such treatment.


No death threats should have been given, but the parents should be ashamed of themselves for having their daughter mock what is a bad situation and one that America will regret in time, as it will be a black spot on our history, like the Japanese internment centers.

I'm not willing to sit and do the who did what, when it's the dems in congress who refused for months to give funds for the care of these people... heck you have some people on the left even boycotting wayfair because they were selling beds to the border facilities for the migrants to sleep in..

If the dems are going to refuseaid, and the left thinks it's wrong to so much as give migrants beds to sleep in then I think it's disingenuous as a whole to them complain about the conditions, that's not caring about the migrants at all, it's using innocent people for nothing more than a photo opportunity.

That said, I don't know the layout of the area, and I've not looked into the who's and what's of this particular photo because politics these days interest me little, all I know is that the aesthetics of that photograph of AOC were horrible, and they should have thought that one through..

I have pretty much everyone on Facebook blocked that posts anything political so I don't get all this junk in my news feed, but I did see that photo and also thought it was just a stupid picture of someone feigning sorrow that wasn't real.

What the truth is matters little, when the aesthetic on first impression is that.
 
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I'm not willing to sit and do the who did what, when it's the dems in congress who refused for months to give funds for the care of these people... heck you have some people on the left even boycotting wayfair because they were selling beds to the border facilities for the migrants to sleep in..

If the dems are going to refuseaid, and the left thinks it's wrong to so much as give migrants beds to sleep in then I think it's disingenuous as a whole to them complain about the conditions, that's not caring about the migrants at all, it's using innocent people for nothing more than a photo opportunity.

That said, I don't know the layout of the area, and I've not looked into the who's and what's of this particular photo because politics these days interest me little, all I know is that the aesthetics of that photograph of AOC were horrible, and they should have thought that one through..

I have pretty much everyone on Facebook blocked that posts anything political so I don't get all this junk in my news feed, but I did see that photo and also thought it was just a stupid picture of someone feigning sorrow that wasn't real.

What the truth is matters little, when the aesthetic on first impression is that.

Dems didn't refuse aid. Dems refused money that was going to a wall.

And you are assuming that she was feigning sorrow.

It is sadly hilarious but the more these type of things are commented by folks on the right about AOC, the more she is liked by folks on the left.
 
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Dems didn't refuse aid. Dems refused money that was going to a wall.

And you are assuming that she was feigning sorrow.

It is sadly hilarious but the more these type of things are commented by folks on the right about AOC, the more she is liked by folks on the left.

I do agree she is the left's Trump..
 
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How very convenient. So, basically, your source for this claim is: "Dude, trust me"?
No one in their right mind would.
...kind of like the "death threats" they talked about in the OP? :scratch:
tulc(is just curious) :wave:
 
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...kind of like the "death threats" they talked about in the OP? :scratch:
tulc(is just curious) :wave:

No. Like the incredibly convenient and well-timed accusations against Kavanaugh, Gorsuch, Trump himself, etc.
DL(but I guess that's completely different, right?) ^_^
 
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No. Like the incredibly convenient and well-timed accusations against Kavanaugh, Gorsuch, Trump himself, etc.
So...you have copies of the alleged death threats they talked about in the OP? Or is this another one of those "Dude, trust me" sorts of things? And, again, what does "Kavanaugh, Gorsuch, Trump" have to do with this thread? :scratch:
DL(but I guess that's completely different, right?)
That was what I was wondering. :sorry:
tulc(will look forward to seeing the link for those threats) :wave:
 
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I don't condone the threats, but what kind of parents would allow their 8 year old daughter to be on social media and expose her like that? I wonder if the little girl was pushed into it by her parents.
I agree. If someone decides to step into the political spotlight and make political statement they ought to expect criticism. But doxing a little girl and targeting her for attacks is way out of line. Ironically, I know another radical group who targeted, threatened, and attacked their political opponents while wearing masks to hide their identity.
 
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Dems didn't refuse aid. Dems refused money that was going to a wall.

And you are assuming that she was feigning sorrow.

It is sadly hilarious but the more these type of things are commented by folks on the right about AOC, the more she is liked by folks on the left.
No, they refused money that was for aid that they were afraid would go to a wall.
 
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What I'm saying is to demand someone provide evidence for one thing but accept with no evidence the OP seems...less then honest. Is the OP true? you all seem happy with "Dude, trust me" in the OP but reject it everywhere else. :wave:
tulc(neither believes or disbelieves the OP he's just asking for the same kind of evidence DanishLutheran seems to require for everything else) :)

Your correct in that we have no evidence, but people calling your home and threatening your life isn't something thats even provable..

I mean, it's not like any of us record every phone call we get on our cellphones.. if these people had recordings or physical proof they could hold up to the world Id be more suspicious than if they had nothing..

I wouldn't have any proof if I had started getting random death threats on my cell..

So in the end, your correct. We have nothing but the word of people who seem to benefit nothing, absolutely nothing, by taking down all the videos and walking away from the fame (and money when YouTube is monetized, and I'm sure theirs was) their daughter achieved.

So, it's a choice. Do you believe them? I'd say theirs is a believable story, but without proof your taking it on faith, in the end.
 
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Your correct in that we have no evidence, but people calling your home and threatening your life isn't something thats even provable..

I mean, it's not like any of us record every phone call we get on our cellphones.. if these people had recordings or physical proof they could hold up to the world Id be more suspicious than if thet had nothing.. I wouldn't have anything.

So in the end, your correct. We have noting but the word of people who seem to benefit nothing, absolutely nothing, by taking down all the videos and walking away from the fame (and money when YouTube is monetized, and I'm sure theirs was) their daughter achieved.

So, it's a choice. Do you believe them? I'd say theirs is a believable story, but without proof your taking it on faith, in the end.
I have no problem with that, the problem that I'm seeing is to accept one group of peoples only "proof" and then dismiss someone else with a "Dude, trust me" just strikes me as pretty obviously biased to believe what they want to be true and dismiss what they don't want to be true. that's been my point all along. :wave:
tulc(hopes that clears up any misunderstanding) :)
 
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I have no problem with that, the problem that I'm seeing is to accept one group of peoples only "proof" and then dismiss someone else with a "Dude, trust me" just strikes me as pretty obviously biased to believe what they want to be true and dismiss what they don't want to be true. that's been my point all along. :wave:
tulc(hopes that clears up any misunderstanding) :)

I think its human to be biased on things that we are already likely to believe..

So the left will always be biased toward the things the left is passionate about, and the right will always lean toward a right wing bias..

It's human nature really. And I think we are all guilty of this, even those who fight against it.
 
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I think its human to be biased on things that we are already likely to believe..

So the left will always be biased toward the things the left is passionate about, and the right will always lean toward a right wing bias..

It's human nature really. And I think we are all guilty of this, even those who fight against it.
I agree with that as well. That doesn't mean we should stop pointing out when people are doing so. :wave:
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No, they voted against money for the wall.
No. They voted against a bill that would give aid to the migrants on the border because there wasn't specific verbiage preventing the money being used to build the wall.

Edit: Also, don't forget who voted against the bill.
 
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‘Mini AOC’ Doxxed And Threatened, Family Shuts Down All Her Social Accounts

“Ava will not be doing any more MINI AOC content,” the tweet said. “The Left’s Harassment and death threats have gone too far for our family. We have been getting calls on our personal phone numbers. For our safety and our child’s safety, we deleted all Mini AOC accounts.”

I would think if this Cortez woman had any compassion, she would defend the little girl against violent rhetoric and violence.
 
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No. They voted against a bill that would give aid to the migrants on the border because there wasn't specific verbiage preventing the money being used to build the wall.

Edit: Also, don't forget who voted against the bill.
No. The Democratic led House passed two bills for aid for the migrants. Some voted against the Senate bill but it did pass.

This is all off topic.
 
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