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Sorry my bad English. No. Trump simple conman. Once realize that cannot be fooled by Trump. Is obvious that he try to divide nation to hold power.

Little you seem to know about structure of the US Government.
Presidents HOLD the position of Head of State whether the nation is divided or not.

I say if you lead people

And I say it is Jesus who said;

Matt 4
[19] And he saith unto them, Follow me,

Matt 8
[22] But Jesus said unto him, Follow me;

Matt 9
[9] And as Jesus passed forth from thence, he saw a man, named Matthew, sitting at the receipt of custom: and he saith unto him, Follow me.

And again, and again, and again, and etc.

How many times did Trump say to FOLLOW HIM?

And IF NOT - why do you call him the leader of people?

Weird!

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Little you seem to know about structure of the US Government.
Presidents HOLD the position of Head of State whether the nation is divided or not.



And I say it is Jesus who said;

Matt 4
[19] And he saith unto them, Follow me,

Matt 8
[22] But Jesus said unto him, Follow me;

Matt 9
[9] And as Jesus passed forth from thence, he saw a man, named Matthew, sitting at the receipt of custom: and he saith unto him, Follow me.

And again, and again, and again, and etc.

How many times did Trump say to FOLLOW HIM?

And IF NOT - why do you call him the leader of people?

Weird!

God Bless,
SBC
Not talk about structure of government. Again you try to avoid topic of discussion. You do this much often. Please stop. Thank you.

Talk about how Trump is divide nation to maintain happy voting base. Trump defend Nazi and KKK because they make bigger part of Trump base.

22 million Americans support neo-Nazis, new poll indicates

Accords to this poll 1/4 (9%) of Trump supporter (36%) support neo-Nazi. Trump desperate to hang on to little support he have even if mean divide nation. I find this behavior disgusting and immoral thing to do. True leader who love country step down before divide country.
 
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Not talk about structure of government. Again you try to avoid topic of discussion. You do this much often. Please stop. Thank you.

Talk about how Trump is divide nation to maintain happy voting base. Trump defend Nazi and KKK because they make bigger part of Trump base.

22 million Americans support neo-Nazis, new poll indicates

Accords to this poll 1/4 (9%) of Trump supporter (36%) support neo-Nazi. Trump desperate to hang on to little support he have even if mean divide nation. I find this behavior disgusting and immoral thing to do. True leader who love country step down before divide country.

Topic of discussion is to trash Trump.
Correct. Not keen on playing that game.
Just doing research, to see who is.

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Topic of discussion is to trash Trump.
Correct. Not keen on playing that game.
Just doing research, to see who is.

God Bless,
SBC
Not to trash Trump. To discuss what Trump does every day and discuss if good thing. I think is terrible thing. I think Trump lack ability to do good job and this proven by many failure in his business career.

What Trump has ability in is hate. Hateful tweets. Hateful statements. Hateful speeches. Defends hateful groups. Defends hateful sheriff. This is Trump ability. If you not like man who spreads hate then you should not support Trump. Is very simple.
 
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Not to trash Trump. To discuss what Trump does every day and discuss if good thing. I think is terrible thing. I think Trump lack ability to do good job and this proven by many failure in his business career.

Of course you are here to trash Trump - because that IS what you do - along with race baiting.

Why not stop worrying about what Americans do and focus on yourself and your country?
Why don't YOU start 500 + companies and provide job opportunities for THOUSANDS of people?
And if a FEW of companies FAIL, crawl in a hole and give up, or take a lesson from a highly successful business man, and move on to more and more successful business ventures that HELP PEOPLE who WANT TO WORK have a JOB OPPORTUNITY?

What Trump has ability in is hate. Hateful tweets. Hateful statements. Hateful speeches. Defends hateful groups. Defends hateful sheriff. This is Trump ability. If you not like man who spreads hate then you should not support Trump. Is very simple.

So what? What is your point? You are here everyday HATING Trump!
The funny part is; you think your hate is OK, but criticize others you accuse of hating!

That is called being a HYPOCRITE!

And that is what makes your posts laughable!

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You are here everyday HATING Trump!
The funny part is; you think your hate is OK, but criticize others you accuse of hating!

That is called being a HYPOCRITE!

And that is what makes your posts laughable!
You not understand. I not hate Trump.

I very sad for Trump. Not live in his head with so much hate for 100 billion USD. Not understand how you can read Trump tweet and not see the hate. Not understand how you can listen Trump speak and not hear hate. Trump so insecure must always brag about being best. Sad.

I very sad for USA. Watch Trump tear USA apart by divide into "us" and "them". Example "They are trying to steal our heritage". Example - Trump defend Nazis and KKK. Trump defend groups that try to divide country. USA desperate for leader who can unite country. Trump is opposite of what needed. Sad.

Think USA is hurt badly unless get rid of Trump soon. Trump have no plan. Trump divide country. Trump make USA laughing stock around world. None of this good for USA. Is all bad for USA.
 
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LOL - take care of your own porch first is a bad idea?
But then if one does not know that means encourage jobs, and not BE the daddy, it would be disappointing for those who want a daddy taking care of them, instead of them earning their own way.

This?
Coming from a socialist freeloader such as yourself?

I'm curious how you reconcile your own personal suckling off the societal nipple with your stated aversion to other people doing it?

I can actually hear the suction sound whistling through the publicly funded rights of way that the internet lines follow which connect your computer to mine...

Perhaps you are the exception that proves the rule?

Could you cite a Constitutional provision that says the Government is to be a Health Insurance Provider?

I'm going to go with Article 1 section 8.

Can you cite a constitutional provision that prohibits the Government from becoming a Health Insurance provider?

The constitution is a PROHIBITION document after all... it does not grant any rights, it affirms those already existent, and LIMITS Government's ability to infringe upon them... surely then you must be able to cite some sort of Constitutional prohibition against Government infringing upon your right to die or go bankrupt because you got cancer and can't afford the treatment, no?

Do away with healthcare? Of course not. Everyone should be responsible for their own healthcare.

You do understand the biology of infectious disease don't you?

Do you ever shop for groceries?
Can you afford them?

Ever wonder why they ARE affordable?
Do you pay for them with cash you keep in a bank account?

I mean, if you truly were a self made individual, you'd grow everything you eat all by yourself, right? You'd live in a house built by yourself, from trees harvested from land you owned, you'd manufacture your own drywall, shingles, mine your own copper for the electrical wires and build your own electrical generation devices from minerals you mined for off your own land and refined in your own forge that you built from scratch, you'd have bought the land that every road you travel on sits, and of course paved all of those roads by yourself, and when you fill up your tank, you'd fill it with gasoline that you personally refined from oil you drilled for, then paid all by yourself to have shipped here, provided your own personal navy to protect the shipping lanes that your oil tankers travel on..paid for of course with gold you mined and not from socilaist cash withdrawn from a bank account insured by the socialist FDIC...

But no, you prefer to hoover off the time, talent and treasure invested by others that created and maintain the infrastructure that enable you to have food, shelter, meaningful work, travel, vacations and of course, allow you the opportunity to freely complain as loud as possible, via that very public infrastructure, about everyone else freeloading exactly like you do every day.

'murica!
 
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This?
Coming from a socialist freeloader such as yourself?

Socialist-
a person who advocates or practices socialism.

socialism
  1. 1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods

  2. 2a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private propertyb : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state

  3. 3 : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done
Freeloader -
a person who takes advantage of others' generosity without giving anything in return.

SINCE YOU have made such an outlandish CLAIM "FOR ME" - "AGAINST ME"
Why don't you PROVE YOUR IGNORANT CLAIM - otherwise LEAVE it as it is, making yourself A FALSE TESTIFIER!


I'm going to go with Article 1 section 8.

Can you cite a constitutional provision that prohibits the Government from becoming a Health Insurance provider?

Go read Article 1 Section 8 again - of WHAT delegated Authority IS included.
IF it is not INCLUDED, it is NOT INCLUDED.

Do you really require the LAW to give you a list of what IS NOT INCLUDED? LOL
How THICK do you think that LAW book would be?
The delegated authority DOES NOT INCLUDE -
buying your food,
buying your clothing,
buying your electronics,
buying your jewelry,
buying your house,
buying your furnishings,
buying your transportation,
buying your toys,
buying your football tickets,
buying your concert tickets,
buying your drinks,
buying your BBQ grill,
buying your utilities,
buying your doctors care,
buying your medicine,

Do you get it yet?
Law is written in the POSITIVE of what IS. NOT the negative of what ISN'T!

Get a clue - Freedom is about being FREE to TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF!
Taking care of YOURSELF, is YOU exercising YOUR OWN FREEDOM to take care of YOURSELF, without infringing ON OTHER PEOPLE, by wanting THEM to take care of YOU, AT THEIR EXPENSE!

The constitution is a PROHIBITION document after all...

No it isn't. You just identified, Article One, Section 8 - good grief, don't you know that is precisely GRANTING POWER for specific things....NOT prohibiting it?

it does not grant any rights

Of course it doesn't. The framers of the US Constitution already disclosed - RIGHTS come from God!

The US Constitution simply grants POWER for the US Federation to DO a LIMITED number of things.

LIMITS Government's ability to infringe upon them

Correct.

surely then you must be able to cite some sort of Constitutional prohibition against Government infringing upon your right to die

Why would I surely be able to cite such a thing, I do not believe?
You stated it, I didn't. You cite a Constitution prohibition against dying.
Does the government somehow, KEEP you from dying? How do they do that?

or go bankrupt because you got cancer and can't afford the treatment, no?

Why would I surely be able to cite such a thing, I do not believe?
You stated it, I didn't. You cite a Constitution prohibition against going bankrupt.
Does the government somehow, KEEP you from going broke? How do they do that?

You do understand the biology of infectious disease don't you?

Sure.

Do YOU understand how to take care of the health and well being of YOURSELF?

Do you ever shop for groceries?

I shop and PAY for what I want, when I want it.

Can you afford them?

Of course, I can afford to buy what I want, since I am the one who PAYS for what I want.

Ever wonder why they ARE affordable?

Mostly what is "affordable" is imported JUNK depleted of the body's required nutrients.
Personally, I am selective in what I buy and PAY for, that I decide is beneficial for me.

Do you pay for them with cash you keep in a bank account?

How I PAY, is none of YOUR business. What you can know is; NO ONE else pays for anything I want or have. I EARN - I DECIDE what I want - and I PAY - Not you, Not the government, Not anyone else.

I mean, if you truly were a self made individual, you'd grow everything you eat all by yourself, right? You'd live in a house built by yourself, from trees harvested from land you owned, you'd manufacture your own drywall, shingles, mine your own copper for the electrical wires and build your own electrical generation devices from minerals you mined for off your own land and refined in your own forge that you built from scratch, you'd have bought the land that every road you travel on sits, and of course paved all of those roads by yourself, and when you fill up your tank, you'd fill it with gasoline that you personally refined from oil you drilled for, then paid all by yourself to have shipped here, provided your own personal navy to protect the shipping lanes that your oil tankers travel on..paid for of course with gold you mined and not from socilaist cash withdrawn from a bank account insured by the socialist FDIC...

That is the MOST ridiculous and funny rant, I have ever heard.

But no, you prefer to hoover off the time, talent and treasure invested by others that created and maintain the infrastructure that enable you to have food, shelter, meaningful work, travel, vacations and of course, allow you the opportunity to freely complain as loud as possible, via that very public infrastructure, about everyone else freeloading exactly like you do every day.

And just when you post the MOST ridiculous and funny rant...you top it! LOL

Get a dictionary - freeloading is taking something while giving nothing in return!

Freeloaders are the SOCIALISTS - WHO WANT free food, free housing, free educations, free laptops, free transportation, free healthcare, free, free, free - and they give exactly what in return? NOTHING! And WHO exactly has to pay for all their Free, free, free wants? The man who WORKS and EARNS!

Get a mirror - talk to it saying whatever you WANT to have - and whatever you want - if you get - and you didn't pay for it - you are the freeloader - the burden.

Personally - I don't care to have freeloaders be MY Burden, Nor does the US Constitution, give Authority to the Federation to MAKE others of the public at large, an others persons freeloading burden.

Your convoluted sense of thinking a man who works for pay, is being taken advantage of is ludicrous. The employer PAYS for the mans services. The employee didn't take the risk and start the business. The employee doesn't own the business, pay the bills of the business, doesn't buy the materials for the business, he works, and is PAID what he agreed to be paid. I don't buy his time, or his talent. I buy from the business owner, a product he has PAID to have produced. And buying and paying for a product DUH - is not freeloading.

Weird concepts you have.

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Little you seem to know about structure of the US Government.
Have read many of your posts. I am confidence I know more than you about structure of US Government.

Presidents HOLD the position of Head of State whether the nation is divided or not.
What that have to do with what I talking about? I said Trump is divider of nation and USA need leader who can unite. Please attempt to address topic under discussion. Thank you.
 
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Socialist-
a person who advocates or practices socialism.

socialism
  1. 1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods

  2. 2a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private propertyb : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state

  3. 3 : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done
Freeloader -
a person who takes advantage of others' generosity without giving anything in return.

SINCE YOU have made such an outlandish CLAIM "FOR ME" - "AGAINST ME"
Why don't you PROVE YOUR IGNORANT CLAIM - otherwise LEAVE it as it is, making yourself A FALSE TESTIFIER!






Go read Article 1 Section 8 again - of WHAT delegated Authority IS included.
IF it is not INCLUDED, it is NOT INCLUDED.

Do you really require the LAW to give you a list of what IS NOT INCLUDED? LOL
How THICK do you think that LAW book would be?
The delegated authority DOES NOT INCLUDE -
buying your food,
buying your clothing,
buying your electronics,
buying your jewelry,
buying your house,
buying your furnishings,
buying your transportation,
buying your toys,
buying your football tickets,
buying your concert tickets,
buying your drinks,
buying your BBQ grill,
buying your utilities,
buying your doctors care,
buying your medicine,

Do you get it yet?
Law is written in the POSITIVE of what IS. NOT the negative of what ISN'T!

Get a clue - Freedom is about being FREE to TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF!
Taking care of YOURSELF, is YOU exercising YOUR OWN FREEDOM to take care of YOURSELF, without infringing ON OTHER PEOPLE, by wanting THEM to take care of YOU, AT THEIR EXPENSE!



No it isn't. You just identified, Article One, Section 8 - good grief, don't you know that is precisely GRANTING POWER for specific things....NOT prohibiting it?



Of course it doesn't. The framers of the US Constitution already disclosed - RIGHTS come from God!

The US Constitution simply grants POWER for the US Federation to DO a LIMITED number of things.



Correct.



Why would I surely be able to cite such a thing, I do not believe?
You stated it, I didn't. You cite a Constitution prohibition against dying.
Does the government somehow, KEEP you from dying? How do they do that?



Why would I surely be able to cite such a thing, I do not believe?
You stated it, I didn't. You cite a Constitution prohibition against going bankrupt.
Does the government somehow, KEEP you from going broke? How do they do that?



Sure.

Do YOU understand how to take care of the health and well being of YOURSELF?



I shop and PAY for what I want, when I want it.



Of course, I can afford to buy what I want, since I am the one who PAYS for what I want.



Mostly what is "affordable" is imported JUNK depleted of the body's required nutrients.
Personally, I am selective in what I buy and PAY for, that I decide is beneficial for me.



How I PAY, is none of YOUR business. What you can know is; NO ONE else pays for anything I want or have. I EARN - I DECIDE what I want - and I PAY - Not you, Not the government, Not anyone else.



That is the MOST ridiculous and funny rant, I have ever heard.



And just when you post the MOST ridiculous and funny rant...you top it! LOL

Get a dictionary - freeloading is taking something while giving nothing in return!

Freeloaders are the SOCIALISTS - WHO WANT free food, free housing, free educations, free laptops, free transportation, free healthcare, free, free, free - and they give exactly what in return? NOTHING! And WHO exactly has to pay for all their Free, free, free wants? The man who WORKS and EARNS!

Get a mirror - talk to it saying whatever you WANT to have - and whatever you want - if you get - and you didn't pay for it - you are the freeloader - the burden.

Personally - I don't care to have freeloaders be MY Burden, Nor does the US Constitution, give Authority to the Federation to MAKE others of the public at large, an others persons freeloading burden.

Your convoluted sense of thinking a man who works for pay, is being taken advantage of is ludicrous. The employer PAYS for the mans services. The employee didn't take the risk and start the business. The employee doesn't own the business, pay the bills of the business, doesn't buy the materials for the business, he works, and is PAID what he agreed to be paid. I don't buy his time, or his talent. I buy from the business owner, a product he has PAID to have produced. And buying and paying for a product DUH - is not freeloading.

Weird concepts you have.

God Bless,
SBC
Almost all Western nation have many more socialist policy than USA. Almost all Western nation have better conditions for living than USA in nearly all category. May you do rethink of opinion of socialism?
 
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Have read many of your posts. I am confidence I know more than you about structure of US Government.


What that have to do with what I talking about? I said Trump is divider of nation and USA need leader who can unite. Please attempt to address topic under discussion. Thank you.

Republicandemocrats :) topic resolved.

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Almost all Western nation have many more socialist policy than USA. Almost all Western nation have better conditions for living than USA in nearly all category. May you do rethink of opinion of socialism?

Socialism = thumbs down.

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Almost all Western nation have many more socialist policy than USA. Almost all Western nation have better conditions for living than USA in nearly all category. May you do rethink of opinion of socialism?

There is a general ignorance of the term here in America, and thus many neglect to acknowledge our dependence on the myriad socialist programs we use daily.
 
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There is a general ignorance of the term here in America,

No, not at all.

and thus many neglect to acknowledge


No, not at all.

our dependence
on the myriad socialist programs we use daily.

You hit the nail on the head - "dependence on socialist programs you use daily".

Well noticed "dependence" is promoted.
Wondering why so many favor "dependence" over "independence".

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Well noticed "dependence" is promoted.
Wondering why so many favor "dependence" over "independence". God Bless,SBC

Yes, you are dependent on our highways, roads, infrastructure and maintenance of them, Public libraries, Public schools, Police, Fire departments, sewer system, water, FEMA, the Military, Home Land Security, Prisons, Judicial system, Soc. Security, Museums, Parks, ...etc. Yes, the independent who couldn't live without....
 
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Yes, you are dependent on our highways, roads, infrastructure and maintenance of them, Public libraries, Public schools, Police, Fire departments, sewer system, water, FEMA, the Military, Home Land Security, Prisons, Judicial system, Soc. Security, Museums, Parks, ...etc. Yes, the independent who couldn't live without....

Seems you are confused of the understanding

between;

Constitutional General welfare -
that ALL the public contributes to financing - and ALL the public equally can use.

and;

Socialist General welfare -
that ALL rich and upper working class pay for programs -
and ONLY "special people" who don't pay can use it.

Biblical standard -
You want something ~ make it yourself or buy if from a seller.
I prefer the Biblical standard ~ for myself and others.

Seems you are confused of the understanding ~
Between
a Constitutional PROVISION and a PROGRAM beyond the limits of the Constitution.

Embrace your Liberty ~ Be Free to take care of yourself. :)

God Bless,
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Seems you are confused of the understanding ...

I believe you stated "Wondering why so many favor "dependence" over "independence". The plain truth is that you are also "dependent" and any attempt at semantic twisting doesn't negate the point. A clear understanding is that The United States is a social democracy. Put simply we are a free market, capitalist society that has social programs, social services and welfare. Nobody is remotely suggesting "socialism" in the context of Marx.

You may now continue to obfuscate as you are so wont to do... enjoy.
 
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I believe you stated "Wondering why so many favor "dependence" over "independence".

The plain truth is that you are also "dependent" and any attempt at semantic twisting doesn't negate the point.

And since you know me so well to make declarations FOR ME -
Elaborate and reveal EXACTLY my so called "dependency" .... I'll wait.

A clear understanding is that The United States is a social democracy.

The "clear understanding" is that "a social democracy" is a "political movement" by socialists to move from capitalism and liberty TO socialism and being controlled.

Perhaps you haven't noticed the Socialists IN the United States do not make up the population of the entire United States - so no the United States is not a social democracy.

The United States is a Nation divided -
between Socialist who want a government to take care of them.
and
Capitalists who want to take care of themselves and not be forced to take care of others.

Put simply we are a free market, capitalist society that has social programs, social services and welfare.

Correct -
Capitalists having more clout at any point - Capitalistic ideas advocated. "R"
Socialists having more clout at any point - Socialistic ideas advocated. "D"

Not a newsflash - the "R" and "D" both sit on the teeter-todder taking turns of going up and down.

Nobody is remotely suggesting "socialism" in the context of Marx.

Suggest it? Huh? They do it!

You may now continue to obfuscate as you are so wont to do... enjoy.

You may continue to renew your blinders prescription as you so choose to do.

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Yes, you are dependent on our highways, roads, infrastructure and maintenance of them, Public libraries, Public schools, Police, Fire departments, sewer system, water, FEMA, the Military, Home Land Security, Prisons, Judicial system, Soc. Security, Museums, Parks, ...etc. Yes, the independent who couldn't live without....

LOL
People can not live without - roads, libraries, schools , FEMA, museums, parks, prisons, etc.....really?

Fascinating! Thanks for clearing up, and rewriting the cause of my ancestors deaths.

God Bless,
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And since you know me so well to make declarations FOR ME -Elaborate and reveal EXACTLY my so called "dependency" .... I'll wait.

Above I listed a number of "social" services provided by the government, did you notice that? Are you suggesting that these plus a few others (EPA,FDA, etc.) do not apply to you? We are all dependent on these services... so I don't need to "know" you or make a great leap of logic to assert your dependency.

The "clear understanding" is that "a social democracy" is a "political movement" by socialists to move from capitalism and liberty TO socialism and being controlled.

Try reading sometime with a little delicacy it will be helpful. I won't argue over your inability to understand that we are a social democracy and have been for quite some time.

The rest is just your rambling so I won't bother wasting "grey matter" on it... Peace
 
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