‘Go to Berkeley’: Ron DeSantis said students seeking ‘woke’ classes should study elsewhere

[durangodawood]

For Berkeley
Arts & Humanities:

• The division offers more than 30 undergraduate and 27 graduate degree programs, enrolling almost 18,000 undergraduate students in courses each semester

Engineering:

• There are approximately 4,100 undergraduates in their College of Engineering courses each semester

Arts & Humanities

The Division of Arts & Humanities at UC Berkeley Are collectively, and in their parts, recognized as among the best in the country and the world. Our faculty and students are shaping discourse and society, improving our understanding of human experience, and gaining new insight into the individual

sites.google.com

Berkeley is definitely more "arts & humanities focused" than many other high profile colleges out there.

That's not to say they don't have a great engineering department. But I think their "artsy" stuff and progressive campus culture is the thing they're known for.

In the same way that OSU has perfectly respectable STEM departments, but they're known for Division 1 athletics.

Thats not a comparison to other schools.

And for your comparison look at how many are enrolled in what majors, not taking an elective. Almost everybody takes a humanities elective at any college. Who takes an engineering elective? And just generally, Berkeley is one of the most renown engineering /science schools out there.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

Thats not a comparison to other schools.

And for your comparison look at how many are enrolled in what majors, not taking an elective. Almost everybody takes a humanities elective at any college. Who takes an engineering elective?

Did you take a gander at BYU's "Code of Honor" that I linked earlier?

Given those strict rules they have about what can and can't be said, shown, and done, I think we can form a pretty rock solid conclusion that they wouldn't have much in the way of a robust Arts or Humanities department there.

While getting precise enrollment numbers may be a tad tricky

We can make some inferences.
UC Berkeley offers over 150 different majors and minors, including several in the arts. The Division of Arts & Humanities provides almost 30 majors

So out of the 150 different programs (major and minors), 30 are majors in the Arts & Humanities department.

 

[durangodawood]

Did you take a gander at BYU's "Code of Honor" that I linked earlier?

Given those strict rules they have about what can and can't be said, shown, and done, I think we can form a pretty rock solid conclusion that they wouldn't have much in the way of a robust Arts or Humanities department there.

While getting precise enrollment numbers may be a tad tricky

We can make some inferences.
UC Berkeley offers over 150 different majors and minors, including several in the arts. The Division of Arts & Humanities provides almost 30 majors

So out of the 150 different programs (major and minors), 30 are majors in the Arts & Humanities department.

Wow still no actual comparison of U's to back up your imaginary comparison!

There are numbers out there for how many graduates get what degrees from various U's. Its instructive. Youll see Berkeley is not what you think it is - when you compare.

 

[BCP1928]

Did you take a gander at BYU's "Code of Honor" that I linked earlier?

Yes, and rejected it as a comparison of superficialities.

 

[keith99]

For Berkeley
Arts & Humanities:

• The division offers more than 30 undergraduate and 27 graduate degree programs, enrolling almost 18,000 undergraduate students in courses each semester

Engineering:

• There are approximately 4,100 undergraduates in their College of Engineering courses each semester

Arts & Humanities

The Division of Arts & Humanities at UC Berkeley Are collectively, and in their parts, recognized as among the best in the country and the world. Our faculty and students are shaping discourse and society, improving our understanding of human experience, and gaining new insight into the individual

sites.google.com

Berkeley is definitely more "arts & humanities focused" than many other high profile colleges out there.

That's not to say they don't have a great engineering department. But I think their "artsy" stuff and progressive campus culture is the thing they're known for.

In the same way that OSU has perfectly respectable STEM departments, but they're known for Division 1 athletics.

Which OSU?

Only one of the several OSUs actually has more NCAA national championships than Berkeley.

The school with the most? Stanford, whose image makes Berkeley seem boringly conservative.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

Which OSU?

Only one of the several OSUs actually has more NCAA national championships than Berkeley.

The school with the most? Stanford, whose image makes Berkeley seem boringly conservative.

I was referring to Ohio State University.

 

[durangodawood]

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That's not to say they don't have a great engineering department. But I think their "artsy" stuff and progressive campus culture is the thing they're known for.

In the same way that OSU has perfectly respectable STEM departments, but they're known for Division 1 athletics.

How did I miss this part.

Cal actually has some of the very best STEM programs in the whole country. Across the board. It is widely known for those - unless your only source of knowledge in this world is recent culture wars axe grinders. Between faculty and alums, the list of Nobel prize winners is ridiculous.

For sure Berkeley (town and U) has a certain radical subculture. But the other 90+% is just doing normal college stuff at a high level.

 

[iluvatar5150]

How did I miss this part.

Cal actually has some of the very best STEM programs in the whole country. Across the board. It is widely known for those - unless your only source of knowledge in this world is recent culture wars axe grinders. Between faculty and alums, the list of Nobel prize winners is ridiculous.

For sure Berkeley (town and U) has a certain radical subculture. But the other 90+% is just doing normal college stuff at a high level.

I missed it, too. Berkeley not being really known for their engineering dept is... wow. It's a big part of why the Bay Area is such a huge tech hub.