“Ultimately, all this rising debt will cost us jobs and damage our economy,” Mr. Obam

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Spending money is one half the issue.

If I made a million a year but spent 999,999 of it I would still not be in debt, but some would say I spent like crazy.

The second half of the problem is they spend more than they make.

And every instance of the federal government has run a debt.

So Obama is no better than any of them.
 
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REALLY??? Why then Obama did you spend like crazy and tells us the money would stimulate the economy. This guy flip-flops like a pancake. I don't trust him.

Except that he never flip-flopped on this issue.

His plan was to stimulate the economy to avert disaster and re-gain our traction and then deal with the debt as the economy recovered.

That is of course if you were listening to him in the first place.
 
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Except that he never flip-flopped on this issue.

His plan was to stimulate the economy to avert disaster and re-gain our traction and then deal with the debt as the economy recovered.

That is of course if you were listening to him in the first place.

Yes, that is what he meant to do. So he and Congress attempted to stimulate the economy by taking money out of the economy and putting it back into the economy in the form of pork and pet projects and taxing it as it went through. Great.
 
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Except that he never flip-flopped on this issue.

His plan was to stimulate the economy to avert disaster and re-gain our traction and then deal with the debt as the economy recovered.

That is of course if you were listening to him in the first place.
Yes, that would explain why he appointed a debt commission then ignored their findings. It would also explain why he barely mentioned the debt in his State of The Union speech. It would also explain why his own budget released a month ago ignored the deficit entirely. Why is he interested in the debt now, you ask? Hardly because it was his plan all along as you suggest. It is because someone else took the lead on the issue and he felt obliged to follow suit.

The man is not a leader, nor an agent of change. He is a defender of the status quo.
 
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Yes, that is what he meant to do. So he and Congress attempted to stimulate the economy by taking money out of the economy and putting it back into the economy in the form of pork and pet projects and taxing it as it went through. Great.

I didn't say it was the best idea or that it worked, I am just saying he did not flip flop on this issue.
 
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Yes, that would explain why he appointed a debt commission then ignored their findings. It would also explain why he barely mentioned the debt in his State of The Union speech. It would also explain why his own budget released a month ago ignored the deficit entirely. Why is he interested in the debt now, you ask? Hardly because it was his plan all along as you suggest. It is because someone else took the lead on the issue and he felt obliged to follow suit.

The man is not a leader, nor an agent of change. He is a defender of the status quo.

It was his stated plan, he just doesn't seem to have a clue how to implement it, especially since the first part didn't go as well as it would have needed to for the rest of his plan to work.

Everyone ignored the debt commission, sadly so many fought hard to make sure it had no power to actually implement a solution because Democrats didn't want any of their programs cut and Republicans didn't want to give the commission the power to raise any taxes.

It or something remarkably like it will be how this will end up working, because, like the base closing commission, congress doesn't have the spine to allow it's own sacred ox's to be gored.
 
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Yes, that would explain why he appointed a debt commission then ignored their findings. It would also explain why he barely mentioned the debt in his State of The Union speech.

When you're being constantly attacked by a pack of rabid dogs (the House Republicans) you don't stand there with a juicy steak in your hand hoping to appease them.
 
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You don't expect a candidate to remember all the statements they made when trying to get elected. They promise the world to get your vote.

They promise you anything to get you in bed with them, after they're elected, they slip out the door before you wake up.

This isn't the first and probably not the last time he would have said one thing and did another.

"This won't happen as long as I am president." Well, then it will happen very soon. 2012 is just around the corner.

Lets see,
a new war?
stagnant economy
gas prices up over 100% of what they were when "O" took office.
continuing to spend massive amounts of money. (his proposed cuts cover his addition to the def.)

Many of these above, led to the rise of the Democrats. Now they will be democratic problems. (even though "O" still blames Bush)
 
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Obama did succeed in getting health care passed--not exactly as he would have wanted, but passed nevertheless.

That was an enormous, and enormously necessary, accomplishment.

He appointed two Supreme Court justices which will keep some semblance of balance on the Court for years to come.

He oversaw the passage of Wall Street reform, another very necessary change.

And he has presided over an improvement in the economy and a decrease in unemployment--although neither has occurred as quickly as any of us would like.
 
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Obama did succeed in getting health care passed--not exactly as he would have wanted, but passed nevertheless.

Without the individual mandate, which has been declared unconstitutional by at least 2 federal judges(yes I know ultimately the SCOTUS will decide) the existing healthcare bill is a complete and total disaster. It can't possibly work, but of course that won't stop them from trying, costing untold billions in the process.
 
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Obama did succeed in getting health care passed--not exactly as he would have wanted, but passed nevertheless.

That was an enormous, and enormously necessary, accomplishment.

He appointed two Supreme Court justices which will keep some semblance of balance on the Court for years to come.

He oversaw the passage of Wall Street reform, another very necessary change.

And he has presided over an improvement in the economy and a decrease in unemployment--although neither has occurred as quickly as any of us would like.

Oh please, 9% unemployment, 2 wars he kept going and a 3rd that he jumped into, gas over $4 and he accumulated more debt than all presidents from President Washington to President George W. Bush COMBINED. He is an utter disaster. He is just a a neophyte playing president. He hops around from stage to stage reading teleprompters and then jets off and parties down at lavish dinners, golf and tropic vacations.
 
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