“So when does the Anti-Christ get here”?

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No joke, I really don’t want to be the one to write this article. Not that anyone really reads my blog, but nonetheless, I feel I have a responsibility to ask… “So when does the Anti-Christ get here”? Once you put something like that in type, you pretty much can consider yourself labeled a kook! Even though I believe a majority of Americans are thinking it, no one is saying it. I believe guys like Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Joel Rosenburg and Tim LaHaye are all probably thinking it right now. I even think George W. Bush is thinking it and has been for a while.

Let me say this, I do not believe President Obama is the Anti-Christ. In my opinion, he just doesn’t fit the bill. It is strange to hear so many call him the messiah though isn't it?

Mathew 24:
4And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
5For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.



Obama certainly has not claimed to be Christ, at least not publicly. His supporters however have labeled him the “Messiah” and I have not heard him rebuke any whom have applied this label. He does send chills up some journalist’s legs though. Oh Chris Mathews, you truly do need help. Perhaps shock therapy? I kid!

Mark 13:

6For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

Luke 21:

8And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them.

Christians believe that there will be signs before Christ raptures His church. Mathew 24, Revelation 6, Mark 13 and Luke 21 all outline signs such as False Messiahs, False Prophets, Wars, International Discord and Natural and Cosmic Phenomena. I think multiple generations have all felt at some point like they have seen these signs. One passage of the Bible that often times is overlooked is 2 Timothy 3:



1This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4Traitors, heady, high-minded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
5Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.



Does any of this sound familiar? But if you really want scary, look no further than Revelation 13:



16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.




Alright, I’ll give it to you that those verses from Revelation seem very cryptic, but are they? Pre-Trib Christians believe they will not be here to see the completion of these verses, but I believe we are seeing the infrastructure being laid for these verses to come true. Two words for you: Global System! All will receive the mark; no man will be able to buy or sell. Are you catching this? “All”. “No man”.

I don’t want to get to far off track though. The purpose of this article was to ask the question: “So when does the Anti-Christ get here? Is he already here? What should we be looking for? Should we even be looking? I’ll answer the should we be looking question at the end, but for now let’s take a look at what the Bible has to say about this Anti-Christ.

Political Genius: Daniel 11: 21 He will be succeeded by a contemptible person who has not been given the honour of royalty. He will invade the kingdom when its people feel secure, and he will seize it through intrigue.

Commercial Genius: Daniel 8: 25 He will cause deceit to prosper, and he will consider himself superior. When they feel secure, he will destroy many and take his stand against the Prince of princes. Yet he will be destroyed, but not by human power.

Military Genius: Daniel 8: 24 He will become very strong, but not by his own power. He will cause astounding devastation and will succeed in whatever he does. He will destroy the mighty men and the holy people.

And perhaps the most prolific passage: 2 Thessalonians 2:

1 Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers,
2 not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by some prophecy, report or letter supposed to have come from us, saying that the day of the Lord has already come.
3 Don't let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction.
4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshipped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God.


So should we really be looking for the coming of the end time, the Anti-Christ and such? Well, Jesus said this in Mathew 24:



42 Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come.
43 But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into.
44 So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.




I once read that when prophecy is preached and taught that the body is challenged to holy living. I look around the world and I see wars and rumors of wars, revolutions, false prophets and messiahs, natural disasters, increase in lawlessness, talk of Global Governments and Global Economies. There certainly isn't a whole bunch of "Holy Living" going on. Is it time to challenge the body? I could totally be off base in what I am seeing. More events likely have to play out yet and none of us will know God's timing.

I do know this; Ronald Reagan said it best when he said: “We are never defeated unless we give up on God. Without God, democracy will not and cannot long endure.”

Is it fair to say then that Socialism in America starts with Obama or does Socialism in America start without God? Prolific, I know.




I don’t know if God’s hand is still on America, but I believe His hand is still on many Americans. God is still here and He is still with us. Ask Captain Sully and all who were aboard the US Airways flight that landed safely in the Hudson if God’s hand was on them?



America: IN GOD WE MUST TRUST ONCE AGAIN.
 

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Obama's supporters don't call him the messiah.

anti-American, anti-Christian propagandists on the right, such as Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity, have labeled him the messiah sarcastically, in a dishonest attempt to paint his supporters as fanatical.

America was founded as a secular nation, and has become less what it was founded on in recent years under anti-American Presidents such as Reagan and George W. Bush.
 
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I once read that when prophecy is preached and taught that the body is challenged to holy living. I look around the world and I see wars and rumors of wars, revolutions, false prophets and messiahs, natural disasters, increase in lawlessness, talk of Global Governments and Global Economies.
These have always been here. Christ may be coming back, but considering that every single person who has predicted "He's coming back right now! It's the end times!" has been wrong, I think Christians should concentrate on living out the message of Jesus instead of predicting the End of Days.

I do know this; Ronald Reagan said it best when he said: “We are never defeated unless we give up on God. Without God, democracy will not and cannot long endure.”

Is it fair to say then that Socialism in America starts with Obama or does Socialism in America start without God? Prolific, I know.
I don't think democracy requires God. It requires a respect for civil liberties, the rights of minorities, and other citizens. I don't know why socialism comes into it, because there can be socialist democracies and Christian socialists.
 
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Welcome to CF WhatWouldRonnieDo! :clap:

Let me say this, I do not believe President Obama is the Anti-Christ. In my opinion, he just doesn’t fit the bill. It is strange to hear so many call him the messiah though isn't it? (emph. added)

...can you supply a quote from an Obama supporter calling him "Messiah"? :confused: I have honestly never heard or seen him called that by anyone who wasn't mocking him or those who voted for him. :wave:
tulc(just wondering) :)
 
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what is truly sad is that it is so easy for evil men like Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush to use the language of Christianity to decieve their political supporters into standing against the better angels of their nature and against the very teachings of their religion in favor of ignorance, hatred, greed, and murder
 
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Yeah, this thread is nuts

aren't they the best? these amazingly "rational" discussions about the "prophecies" for the anti-Christ by adult people, by all appearances calmly discussing the "evidence" for who he might turn out to be
 
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When does the Anti-Christ get here? Well, I don't know when he's gonna get to your place, but he told me he was stopping by my house next Wednesday for dinner and drinks.

Seriously people. Every generation for the past 2000 years or so thought there generation was the last....
 
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Wow, I gotta say.......

I just joined this board and did so in hopes of finding a forum to discuss politics and theology with some similarly minded people. Boy, was I mistaken!!!! Some of the post on here and especially in this particular thread make me wonder if some of you are actually even believers!

To the OP, I without doubt believe that we are very close the the Last Days, if not entering into them. ANYONE who studies Scripture at any depth should be able to recognize that. Who will the Anti-Christ be? Not really sure, but I do believe we will be seeing the answer to that question shortly.

If one looks at the current state of affairs in the Middle East (especially with Israel, Iran and Russia) in light of Ezekiel 38-39, you have to recognize that we are close.
 
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Wow, I gotta say.......

I just joined this board and did so in hopes of finding a forum to discuss politics and theology with some similarly minded people. Boy, was I mistaken!!!! Some of the post on here and especially in this particular thread make me wonder if some of you are actually even believers!

To the OP, I without doubt believe that we are very close the the Last Days, if not entering into them. ANYONE who studies Scripture at any depth should be able to recognize that. Who will the Anti-Christ be? Not really sure, but I do believe we will be seeing the answer to that question shortly.

If one looks at the current state of affairs in the Middle East (especially with Israel, Iran and Russia) in light of Ezekiel 38-39, you have to recognize that we are close.
I admit. My post was sarcastic and I should do better. I apologize to the OP.

Second, welcome to CF zealot669!

One thing to keep in mind, is that this forum, and Christianity in general, casts a broad net. There is a wide variety of opinions and perspectives here, and issues like the Antichrist are approached from all those povs. Some here may share your perspective, some may not. I try to view this as an opportunity to try to understand and (hopefully) appreciate others viewpoints and refine and correct (if necessary) my own.
 
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I admit. My post was sarcastic and I should do better. I apologize to the OP.

Second, welcome to CF zealot669!

One thing to keep in mind, is that this forum, and Christianity in general, casts a broad net. There is a wide variety of opinions and perspectives here, and issues like the Antichrist are approached from all those povs. Some here may share your perspective, some may not. I try to view this as an opportunity to try to understand and (hopefully) appreciate others viewpoints and refine and correct (if necessary) my own.

Thanks for the welcome.

Agreed and understood on the pov. I wasn't expecting and don't want everyone to think like me or agree with me. The main thing that disturbs me when looking through the various threads, is the venom in the bite that can be detected in some people's posts.
 
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Wow, I gotta say.......

I just joined this board and did so in hopes of finding a forum to discuss politics and theology with some similarly minded people. Boy, was I mistaken!!!! Some of the post on here and especially in this particular thread make me wonder if some of you are actually even believers!
First: Welcome to CF! :wave:
Second, there are forums on CF where they are a lot less...differences of opinion? You could check those out, this particular area tends to be a mix of people with opinions (some you wont agree with, some you will ;) ) If what you're looking for is people who agree with you I suggest posting in the other fora. If however, you're looking to be challenged and have your views refined (and do some refining of others views also) this is the place! ;)

To the OP, I without doubt believe that we are very close the the Last Days, if not entering into them. ANYONE who studies Scripture at any depth should be able to recognize that. Who will the Anti-Christ be? Not really sure, but I do believe we will be seeing the answer to that question shortly.

If one looks at the current state of affairs in the Middle East (especially with Israel, Iran and Russia) in light of Ezekiel 38-39, you have to recognize that we are close.


The problem is your post could (without changing a word of it) be written anytime in the last 2,000 years. Don't you find that a little odd? Lots of people in every generation have been convinced they were living in the "Last Days" and yet, here we are still plugging away. :sorry: Maybe the Lord ment for us to be more concerned with living right and serving the people around us then in trying to figure out who the anti-Christ is? :confused:
tulc(again, welcome to CF!) :clap:
 
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...The problem is your post could (without changing a word of it) be written anytime in the last 2,000 years. Don't you find that a little odd? Lots of people in every generation have been convinced they were living in the "Last Days" and yet, here we are still plugging away. :sorry: Maybe the Lord meant for us to be more concerned with living right and serving the people around us then in trying to figure out who the anti-Christ is?...

Documentation - be sure to see the links to each time period at the bottom of the page:

http://www.geocities.com/alma-geddon/lastjudgment.html
 
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tulc -

Thanks for the welcome.

I prefer and welcome a good discussion. That's exactly what I am looking for. I was refering more to the teeth-bearing, venomous vitrol that I have seen in some of the threads. (like post 5,7,8,12, 11 oh wait that's me!) I can agree to disagree on nearly anything. "Unity in the essentials, charity in nonessentials." What I can't stand is back-biting and tearing one another down, especially in the Body of Christ.

As far as being in the Last Days, I realize people have been saying this for many years. However, I believe when you begin to analyze prophecy in Ezekiel 38-39 or the prophecies regarding the rebirth of Israel and Jesus statement in Mat 24:34 or various other patterns and prophecies throughout the Bible, it seems to be pretty evident that we are nearing the time of Christ's Return.
 
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