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Hi everyone, Im just now back to read and havent read the whole thread. What I meant was: It seems as though the gospel was explained the the Jews, with the OT. Luk 16:29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them. Luk 16:30 And he said, Nay...

Acts 28:23 And when they had appointed him a day, there came many to him into his lodging; to whom he expounded and testified the kingdom of God, persuading them concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses, and out of the prophets, from morning till evening. Paul explained the kingdom...

considered what, exactly? Jeremiah is the first book that made me want to read deeper into the scriptures. Jer 7:22 For I spake not unto your fathers, nor commanded them in the day that I brought them out of the land of Egypt, concerning burnt offerings or sacrifices: Jer 7:23 But...

Eze 20:25 Wherefore I gave them also statutes [that were] not good, and judgments whereby they should not live; is God saying that Moses Law wasnt good?

Act 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so. These people searched the scriptures to see if the things they were hearing were so. So I think that, yes, it...

I was just talking to someone the other day about this. You never see anywhere in scripture where it talks about how the people felt about it. and I wonder how if my family was gathered out back my house and it was time to kill an animal for our sins.. how would we feel watching that animal...

Because I have also wondered and never understood how God would NEED to have Jesus sacrificed when human sacrifice itself is a bad thing.

Interesting! Thank you for your thoughts! So... had Jesus come, they accepted him, they began to sacrifice him... God would have stopped them and seen that they WOULD have given him up and then provided a ram? What would happen then?

Was hanging on a tree a part of the original intentions? Or just what God knew would happen. Because wouldnt you think that which ever way a lamb was to be slain and sacrificed in the OT would have been the way God was foreshadowing that Jesus should have been slain? KWIM? a kosher type...

and I mean also, should the jews have lived the same life WE now live? or did they really have a difference. Like for example, was some of the law simly pointing out what sin was? and was some.. in a sense, an allegory type thing? Almost like an old wives tale? and they should have drawn...

Im of the mindset that God is the same yesterday, today and forever. I have done ZILLIONS of hours of study about the law and why/ if the OT israelites needed to follow it. I know simple thoughts like, "Unbelievers are condemned under it" does this mean once you're a believer you'd no...

Maybe Im just dense, because I had never thought this before, but I had a thought the other day that I had never considered before. Either way around it, Jesus was to be sacrificed. If he had been accepted as the messiah, he was STILL here as the sacrifice. John knew this, ( and this...

I wanted to add one more thing. Ishmael was promised to be a father of 12 princes... so possibly the "allegory" of the covenants goes further as the old covenant people (Jews) had the 12 tribes of course.

DANG good post Jefwins. Do you have any more insight as to that passage you quoted? Im just wondering your thoughts. Especially this: 30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: Would you take that to mean cast out the first covenant? Would you...

How can that be when there is no Jew and Gentile distinction in Christ?

The same thing would happen to them as would happen to anyone. What kind of answer are you thinking?

Ooooh yikes. lol I kinda know what you mean because I am of the mind that one really (when it comes right down to it) doesnt have to know ANYTHING about the Bible/ Jesus etc... in order to be saved. I think it's all about your heart ( God knows the hearts of mankind) and thats what matters...

I dont believe that when it says in Romans that "All Israel will be saved" that, that means all ethnic Hebrew people. Because also it says in the OT, something like "Though they (Hebrews) be as the sands of the sea (in number), only a remnant will be saved." Those 2 things can not be a...

Im of a little bit different opinion in that I dont think there was ever a "different" salvation covenant with Jewish people, as I feel is explained in the NT. The Law wasnt for salvation and neither was legalistic works. Ever. Everyones been saved by faith, even them, then. I dont think the...