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Read what Wesley has to say http://gbgm-umc.org/UMhistory/Wesley/sermons/serm-040.stm You will find that he argues adamantly that Christians do not sin, plain and simply. He makes no excuse for 'ignorant sins,' only human miscalculation or error in ignorance that even the best-hearted men...

Then we must ask why doesn't God just scoop up the entire human race into heaven in His love and mercy? You are leaving out His justice. He is completely willing to feed all 100 people starving to death. But He can't feed them if they don't accept the food. He can't save them if they don't...

What I was trying to say is that Christian perfection is not "God perfection" or "Angelic perfection." We can make some errors, miscalculations, and things of the sort. When Wesley spoke about not being 'totally perfect,' he meant as humans. He was talking about errors that human beings make...

You are forgetting that we have all been given light, and that we all have a moral code written on our hearts (a conscience). Even the unregenerate has a sense of what is right and what is wrong. This is evidence of God working in their lives. Every man is born with a sinful nature, this is...

It's not about 'accepting dogmas.' Mainstream Christianity will have you to believe that, but I do not believe this. The 'accepting Christ' movement is flawed, in my opinion. A mere intellectual assent for the Gospel facts is not what saves you. Pure true repentence, followed by belief in...

I agree. You have to understand that God has many qualities - love, justice, mercy, and holiness/perfection. But those are the four main characteristics of God. He cannot deny one, for that would mean He is not God. God's mercy and love - Sending Jesus Christ to die for the sins of mainking...

I too believe that one must perservere to the end, and live a holy life - by the power of the Spirit. The Christian must perservere. Someone who says they are a Christian, but denies it by their lifestyle is a liar. Being a Christian starts with an acception of Jesus, but does not end there.

God wants us all to be saved - He says it Himself. None of us are any more worthy than the next person, because we all have sins in our life that Jesus needs to atone for. This is what Jesus painfully died for. This is mercy, this is love. He has provided a way out for all people, equally. So if...

Actually, I don't even remember what the Nicean Creed says. I am not Christian by that Creed. I am Christian by what the Bible says. That is what I meant - I wasn't refering to the Nicene Creed.

First of all, who are you to judge whether or not Wesley was a believer? If you read his writings, he surely was. In fact, he was completely opposed to the idea that we cannot stop sinning until we die - his sermons are the foundation of the holiness movement! Wesley did not preach we could...

That being a Christian is not about affiliation. My parents were Catholic. Am I by default? I went to Catholic schools my whole life, was I a Catholic during any of those times? No, I wasn't even a Christian. Many people call themselves 'Christian,' and are not. Being Christian by...

Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. John 14:6 Do you disagree with this? Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12 Or how about this...

I'll repeat myself in that I see no discrepancies in the Word of God. Your suppositions are just that - suppositions. Being Christian is NOT about 'religious affiliation!!!' You do not seem to see the extremity of prostrating yourself before Christ, throwing it all at His feet to save you...

Exactly Kyle

The theological fiction that "Jesus paid for our sins past, present, and future" is just that, fiction. Nowhere in the Bible does it state such a thing. The Bible said He was a ransom for our sins; a propitiation. He was the Lamb of sacrifice so we can be forgiven. Once forgiven, we start a new...

I am speaking of perfection of the heart. Living up to the conviction of God, and relying on the Spirit of grace. God reveals sins in believer's lives if they are willing to listen, and if they are this close to God, they will stop these activities. It's a matter of the heart, not a legalistic...

God isn't going to punish us for something Adam did. I said this before - we are not literally guilty of Adam's punishment. You can't "impute" sin like some magical transfer. I cannot impute my sin to you anymore than you can impute wisdom to a fool. I also said, in agreement with you, that...

Yes, I suppose you are right. I meant it in a 'metaphorical' way. Christ did exist before, and was incarnated (human nature). What I meant was Mary was conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit. Kyle

Yes, that is correct His father was the Holy Spirit :) Kyle

Inherited depravity, to put it in a simple way, is not our fault, but certainly our misfortune. Adam sinned because he was lured by the Satan to 'know the ways of God,' and doubt Him. Adam was created with moral free will, to walk in fellowship with God willingly. But instead, Adam sinned...