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  1. Karl - Liberal Backslider

    Well, it's been fun, but... (with reflection)

    ...what was the point of coming back? Same old misrepresentations, disingenous claptrap, swivel-eyed lunacy and utter ignorance that convinced me six years ago that I was wasting my time here. The last couple of weeks have reminded me of why I came to that conclusion. There's no point...
  2. Karl - Liberal Backslider

    An announcement - I was wrong.

    Terribly wrong. How could I be so wrong? It came like the light on the road to Damascus. Either God is real, or He isn't. If He is real, then He can do anything. Including giving us a completely true and accurate account of the beginning of the universe. And that is what He has done...
  3. Karl - Liberal Backslider

    Vote of thanks for the Creationists

    Yes, guys, I'd like to propose a toast to the Creationists. And why? Well, despite the whining, the ad-hocery, and the repetition of crap gleaned from the websites of the LCWs, the Creationists have done scientifically interested laymen a great favour. They have increased our knowledge and...
  4. Karl - Liberal Backslider

    Theistic Evolutionists are:

    Roll up! Roll up! Just a little game. Non-creationists - vote on which of the common insults levelled against TEs you think will prove most popular Creationists - vote on which of the common insults levelled against TEs most matches your own view of us. If your particular favourite isn't...
  5. Karl - Liberal Backslider

    For discussion - Creationists, truth, science, post-modernism etc.

    Back in December, on the Theistic Evolution Only forum, I posted: The problem is in how we view the concept of truth. IME, YECs cannot actually conceive of something being true without the details being literally true. You can offer up Jesus' parables as examples, but apparently they're...
  6. Karl - Liberal Backslider

    Models of human evolution - for Carico

    Carico has posted that: So, lets have a poll - evos only, since the questions are pretty meaningless to a creationist. Do Carico's various versions really exist? Is there this complete disagreement between scientists? [/size][/color][/font]
  7. Karl - Liberal Backslider

    Motivation of the more intransigent Creationists

    Any thoughts on what's going on inside the heads of some of our more intransigent creationists? Take A Current Poster who is constantly reiterating that evolution can't be true because different species can't cross breed, which is (a) untrue, and (b) not required by evolution. Yet This Poster...
  8. Karl - Liberal Backslider

    Homosexuality laws around the world.

    OK. This one's for the people who oppose gay rights. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_laws_of_the_world#Homosexuality_laws Which of the above countries' laws have it right?
  9. Karl - Liberal Backslider

    Creationist Lies

    I'm suggesting we keep a thread listing creationist lies that have been fibbed on this forum, together with an explanation of why they are not true. Then, when creationists visit they can read this thread, and as the honest people of high integrity they are, they will not repeat what they now...
  10. Karl - Liberal Backslider

    Can creationists pluralise words ending in -ist?

    Please, just for my blood pressure. It's driving me mad: Singular: Plural: Scientist Scientists Evolutionist Evolutionists Creationist Creationists Please, it isn't hard. The next post I see with "evolutionist are" is probably going to take out a major brain artery.
  11. Karl - Liberal Backslider

    Did we evolve from apes? Well, yes and no

    This one comes up from time to time (or its friend "Evolution says we evolved from monkeys"), and some of us reply that we did, and some that it's a strawman. Unfortunately, both answers are true depending on definitions, and this is potentially confusing. Let's be clear. We did not evolve...
  12. Karl - Liberal Backslider

    Reading over the CO forum...

    Do folks feel primary saddened or vindicated by the utter disdain in which we are held by many of the Creationists when they post on their own turf? Apparently we're promoters of the God of Death, for example.
  13. Karl - Liberal Backslider

    Creationist Hubris

    I'd like to examine a strange sort of side phenomena here. That is creationist hubris. Take the thread on why relativity is wrong. I think my and other folks' comments there speak for themselves. Or how about this exchange...
  14. Karl - Liberal Backslider

    YECs - please read.

    http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?p=10689573&postcount=4 I'm just asking you to read this, that I posted a couple of weeks back. The same misstatements and misunderstandings of where the non-YECs are coming from are still being endlessly rehashed on any number of threads...
  15. Karl - Liberal Backslider

    For the YECs - doesn't it bother you that...

    ...your position is largely underpinned by lies, misrepresentation and mistakes? Again and again and again we expose dishonesty by the creationist machine: * Cytochrome C similarities (humans, sunflowers, apes, whatever it was) * Samples from "same mammoth" dated differently * Xenolith...
  16. Karl - Liberal Backslider

    Church problems, aging congregations, the lot...

    Over on another board, the following threads have been started by yours truly: http://forum.ship-of-fools.com/cgi-bin/UBB/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=6;t=001855 http://forum.ship-of-fools.com/cgi-bin/UBB/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=005420 Since this is a particularly Anglican...
  17. Karl - Liberal Backslider

    Any physicists in the house?

    Enjoy. Apparently cosmologists lack high school physics. http://christianforums.com/showthread.php?p=9531361&postcount=7
  18. Karl - Liberal Backslider

    More misconceptions - do they ever actually listen to us?

    On CO, Micaiah said Let's take this through in bits. No. We believe that Genesis is clearly non literal. It's plain meaning is a mythological one. We do not "choose" to "reject" anything. No. Because it is not the way it was meant to be read, and it does not accord with reality...
  19. Karl - Liberal Backslider

    Underhand Creationist Insults

    Just read through the CO forum. Where they can't be corrected, creationists call evolutionists "liars" and "scoffers" These are unfounded allegations, and I hereby accuse the creationists making them of bearing false witness (contrary to the 10 commandments) and being underhand in...
  20. Karl - Liberal Backslider

    Glory be to the Father | and to the Son : And to the Holy Spirit | - Psalm chanting

    Does anyone actually get anything out of this? I love my local church, but if there's one thing I could get off the menu tomorrow it'd be the wretched psalm chanting. You know the sort of thing: A great long line in Elizabethan English | that you can't quite fit : all the...