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  1. Lilandra

    Does Divine Revelation Trump Reason? Pressuppositionalism

    Hi, If science or reason doesn't agree with the Bible is it wrong because God revealed to a person the Bible is right? I haven't debated these issues here in about 6 years. However, I recently posted about debating Presuppositionalism in Aron Ra's new blog on Freethought Blogs. Here, untie...
  2. Lilandra

    Teaching the Real Reason for the Season

    Hi, It's been awhile, but because of this board I really learned about the power of scientific explanations. I was a Creationist when I first started posting here. Because of some of the users here like my now husband AronRa I really see the world more clearly. I don't see many of the old...
  3. Lilandra

    Faith in humanity

    How can some you guys post here for years without losing some of it? For example, I am amazed that some posters are still posting so prolifically after years and their posts are pretty much the same as years ago. Still threatening people with Hell, heckling anyone who earnestly tries to know...
  4. Lilandra

    A CF/Crevo Poster Wedding

    Hi, I married Aron Ra this summer. We first became acquainted here in the Crevo forum. I was a Old Earth Creationist and he helped me with some of the other posters here understand Evolution. Anyways for any of the posters, who know us, here is a link to our wedding video. It is an Asian...
  5. Lilandra

    Link to "Darwin!" from SNL's TV Funhouse?

    I can't find this clip anywhere. Does anyone have a link to the clip?
  6. Lilandra

    Religilous: Has anyone else seen Maher's new film?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iUyAppOOU0 The part where he talks to Ken Ham and tours his museum is priceless. Ham was like "Are you God?" and Maher was like "No..."
  7. Lilandra

    Students need to jump to their own conclusions (about evolution)

    All I want to know is when is it ever a good idea to jump to a conclusion without considering facts especially with something as fact oriented as science. This is from a Texas Freedom Network newsletter I am subscribed to. They have a Stand Upfor Science Campaign for anyone interested in...
  8. Lilandra

    Is there a rational reason to adopt ID/Creationism? Stein:Science leads to killing...

    Ben Stein on why he embraced ID and made the movie expelled... I challenge him to name one person religion has cured from a deadly disease. Science has saved millions from death. Evolutionary science will aid in the cure to genetic diseases. Anyhow, I can't think of a rational reason to...
  9. Lilandra

    YECs take children on bus tours of science museums

    This is why we debate this issue. Irresponsible adults misrepresenting science to schoolchildren. This video is egregious. "Biblically Correct" tours has taken thousands of Denver schoolchildren to local science museums and told them that the exhibits are "artwork" not science among other...
  10. Lilandra

    Pro/Con emails toTHECB:Educate the Texas Ed. Board about ICR

    Sadly, there are a number of Texans, who don't know what science is. Unfortunately, a number of them are in positions to make decisions on whether teachers educated at the Institute for Creation Research can teach science in public schools. Since a Texas advisory group gave ICR preliminary...
  11. Lilandra

    Does anyone have a copy of the Aron-ra/Ramsey Texas evo debate submissions?

    Shot in the dark here. Hard drive crash and back up emails won't open. I only have their 2nd submissions of the 3 submissions and closing statements. There are rebuttals saved in the archives, but Aron is looking for the debate submissions themselves. These are rebuttals he did later...
  12. Lilandra

    Schiavo's Lawyer:Science is Religion and violates Seperation of Church and State

    http://www.sptimes.com/2008/01/15/State/Lawyer_says_school_pr.shtml What a waste of taxpayer money to sue over evolution in schools. Evolution is in no way a religion. The board's Aron Ra coincidentally just debunked this claim in a video in Gamespotter's thread.
  13. Lilandra

    Institute for Creation research may be able to grant degrees in Science Education

    Read on... ~~~~~~ ~~~~~~ Texas Observer Blog Who are these people? Who educated them?
  14. Lilandra

    The Weasal Strategy in Florida Schools next year

    It's not evolution says the Florida DOE it is "change over time". If these people making science decisions for Florida school children next year are not flat out lying about biology, they are freakin ignorant and should consult someone who knows what they are talking about, like an actual...
  15. Lilandra

    How effective is prostelyzing on CvsE?

    W/O naming names,,, Ya'll can add to these. I can't remember them all. Creationist examples: The Bible is inerrant therefore evolution is wrong. The universe is not the product of blind chance. Evolution is the product of naturalistic assumptionsNonbeliever examples: There is no evidence of...
  16. Lilandra

    What are supernatural/religious/mythical explanations useful for?

    I'd like to leave the question open ended, before I add anything to give people a chance to discuss. But oh! I am itchin to tell ya! :) Edit to add:Specifically what in the world do they explain and what can that explanation be applied to?
  17. Lilandra

    Wouldn't it be cool if...

    in the debates here you had this cognitive dissonance disrupter ray? Every time someone wouldn't engage in a scientific discussion, you could just hit a key and a pulse would disrupt the destructive thought patterns from repeating long enough for them to be reasoned with. It gets...
  18. Lilandra

    For RichardT

    Richard this is starting to resemble an intervention. Think for a minute. If you applied as much effort to studying the actual universe rather than the geocentric stylings of baloney artists. What would you learn? You may catch an inkling of the universe for the first time. Otherwise, you...
  19. Lilandra

    Letter from my SBOE member concerning science education

    Hi, I know I have been on a rant lately about the appointment of McLeroy, a creationist, as the head of the State Board of Education. I wrote a letter to my Texas SBOE member Republican Bob Craig. He responded today... How cool is that? I am going to write him back thanking him that...
  20. Lilandra

    What is this guy talking about?

    Okay... Now no one posits that humans are in the line of descent of trees. That makes no sense. Trees=>humans would look more like this... http://www.tfn.org/publiceducation/textbooks/mcleroy/