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  1. Lilandra

    Does Divine Revelation Trump Reason? Pressuppositionalism

    How do you know the Bible is the word of God? Aren't you still leaning on your own understanding to interpret it if it is? Does God beam understanding directly in your head? Why can't you think for yourself?
  2. Lilandra

    Does Divine Revelation Trump Reason? Pressuppositionalism

    How about you speak for yourself and what you think in your own words?
  3. Lilandra

    Does Divine Revelation Trump Reason? Pressuppositionalism

    I will address this first... Presupposing God did everything isn’t a useful way to study our environment or make predictions about it. Say for example, a person lived their entire life in a well. Would positing that god created the well help them understand their environment. All that could...
  4. Lilandra

    Does Divine Revelation Trump Reason? Pressuppositionalism

    May post this to the discussion if you don't.
  5. Lilandra

    Does Divine Revelation Trump Reason? Pressuppositionalism

    I watched the video, and I like what he said about science not being based on the describing the concept of reality, but on making observations that generate predictions.
  6. Lilandra

    Does Divine Revelation Trump Reason? Pressuppositionalism

    We're about to watch your link. This is a link to the discussion of Presuppositionalism on his blog: Here, untie my Gordian knot… | Ace of Clades. There is a thought-provoking discussion of it there too. A lot of points I wouldn't have come up with on my own.
  7. Lilandra

    Does Divine Revelation Trump Reason? Pressuppositionalism

    This may be an interesting way to get Sye to shove off, so Aron can speak to the young creationist he is duping directly. Sye-God has revealed the truth to me. Aron or me-I don't accept your premise. G'Day
  8. Lilandra

    Does Divine Revelation Trump Reason? Pressuppositionalism

    The value in it for me is not in changing the mind of a Eric Hovind type. The value is showing others that the reasoning is flawed, so they don't become puppets.
  9. Lilandra

    Does Divine Revelation Trump Reason? Pressuppositionalism

    Hi, If science or reason doesn't agree with the Bible is it wrong because God revealed to a person the Bible is right? I haven't debated these issues here in about 6 years. However, I recently posted about debating Presuppositionalism in Aron Ra's new blog on Freethought Blogs. Here, untie...
  10. Lilandra

    Teaching the Real Reason for the Season

    Did you know that 13 percent of high school biology teachers teach Creationism and 30 percent don't actively teach it the way it is recommended by the National Academy of Science.
  11. Lilandra

    Teaching the Real Reason for the Season

    A Merry Christmas to you.:)
  12. Lilandra

    Teaching the Real Reason for the Season

    Good to see you too. How goes the siege?
  13. Lilandra

    Teaching the Real Reason for the Season

    Hi, It's been awhile, but because of this board I really learned about the power of scientific explanations. I was a Creationist when I first started posting here. Because of some of the users here like my now husband AronRa I really see the world more clearly. I don't see many of the old...
  14. Lilandra

    Faith in humanity

    I live in Texas as well, and no one quizzes me about my religious beliefs. But people do vote for creationists on the School Board and any number of encroachments on the separation of church and state.
  15. Lilandra

    Faith in humanity

    I can't believe you live in Texas and you still feel that way. I said lose a little faith in humanity from reading creationist posts here not complete faith in humanity.
  16. Lilandra

    Faith in humanity

    It is highly unlikely that anyone was ever possessed by demons. Therefore their must have been a natural explanation for people who everyone thought was possessed. I'll play Devil's Advocate here. Let's say for a minute that they were possessed by demons. Jesus was asked why God would...
  17. Lilandra

    Faith in humanity

    Jesus often spoke in parables. He was answering Pharisees about why he hung out with "sinners". He was not speaking of literal physicians. My point you do trust science on some things. People in the Bible thought conditions like epilepsy were caused by demons. Treat with medication or...
  18. Lilandra

    Faith in humanity

    All right. If a doctor diagnoses a child with cancer. Do the parents rely on their faith in God to heal the child or do they trust science?
  19. Lilandra

    Faith in humanity

    I am sure others have explained circular reasoning. Whether a position is valid or not is based on evidence not on itself. Like I can't assert that something AronRa says is true simply because he says so. You cannot say Genesis is a valid explanation for the origin of species just because...
  20. Lilandra

    Faith in humanity

    So who determined that the Theory of Evolution is either philosophy or vain deceit? You?