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Praise the Lord! I guess what really struck me is that this issue has obviously been batted back and forth since the first copy of Paul's epistles hit the streets. It will never be definite until it occurs. I also see that I've fallen into the age old trap of disputing doctrine when I...

Praise the Lord! Brother Willis you have indeed opened a very large can of worms here. I say this with all due respect and humility. I'm going back through and covering all you have presented. Starting with the Feast of Trumpets. You said you once believed the Body of Christ would be...

Praise the Lord! I still stand firm on my evidence concerning a post-trib rapture. I've been studying the information you've supplied brother Willis. Even though I find it to further support what I've been saying, I still must hold to the fact that if we stray from the Holy Bible to find our...

Brother Willis, I must apologize too. I read over my own words and feel the bluntness and it doesn't appeal to me at all. The reason I started this thread is because I find little support for a pre-trib "rapture", whereas I do find support for this event happening directly upon Jesus'...

>>>>>>>Holycanaan You are so correct about the "rapture" being a secret, but scripture tells us the "2nd coming of Jesus" is a secret as well. Mat 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. Mat 24:37 But as the days of Noe were...

Praise the Lord! I find it imperative that the only support for scripture must come from scripture itself. Namely the Holy Bible as directly transcribed from the original Greek text. This is the only Book that has the power to save souls. This is the Book that is the Living Word of God. I...

Brother Willis, Hasn't the Lord given us but one Book from which we are to support any and all findings from? If it were necessary for me to understand His Word by drawing from outside sources wouldn't this make the Bible incomplete? I understand what you're saying concerning the phrase...

Brother Willis, I hadn't expected a master theologian so quickly. Greetings. The english word "last" in 1Cor 15:52 was derived from the original greek text - eschatos es'-khat-os which is defined as - (in the sense of contiguity); farthest, final (of place or time):--ends of...

Did you read my prior post Holycanaan? Please read my first post to this thread. God bless, Steven

Hi brother rollinTHUNDER, Sorry if my post seemed like an attack. You did quote 1 Cor 15:51 and went on to say that the church would be raptured before the Great Tribulation. I should have also mentioned that I do believe you heard from God. Especially concerning the economic crash of the...

Hi everyone and Praise the Lord! Does everyone agree that Jesus will "rapture" the Church on the "last trump" ? Here is the most quoted verse concerning the "rapture" of the church....... 1Co 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump : for the trumpet shall...

Hi everybody and praise the Lord! In reference to "Behold, I shew you a mystery". These are the correct verses for this, but please, please pay close attention to the trumpet part..... 1Co 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 1Co...

This isn't in reply to the previous thread but to the topic of this post which has caused much confusion and division amongst many believers. Even at my home church. I wonder why people always are digging for some hidden meaning to the scriptures? It really bewilders me when someone says...