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Understanding of genetics and molecular biology is possible without having to pay thousands of dolalrs for the degree. It just takes a persistent mind, a few good web sites and/or overpriced college text. Although I do agree with your implicit point- A lot of the Creationist objections of...

If you do have the time, I think you should also read up books/arguments against evolution. A pre-requisite of handeling any debate well is understanding the rationale and support for both sides of the debate. Also, on the personal level, accepting evolution and rejecting strict creationism...

Most Stephen Jay Gould books should be able to provide both an entertaining and an informative look at ToE. http://www.talkorigins.org is good The best sorce, as suggested in an earlier post, is probably a college-level textbook on general evolution. It would provide both a unified and...

I'm not a Christan but I'll offer my 2-cents on the issue. I'm probably either slightly right or left of center on the political issue of the environment (depending on the specific issue). As a moral relativist, I believe that whether or not "destruction of the evironment" is moral depends on...

I have several things about this: 1.) Firstly, the convincing thing about a comparison between ape and human chromosomes isn't that they're similar- but how they're similar. The shared similarities of chromsome 22/23 of apes and humans are different in such a way that can only be explained by...

Incest wouldn't have been a problem for Adam and Eve's kids if neither Adam or Eve carried any detrimental recessive alleles.

I think what what you're getting at is that there's no one observation that can entirely discredit The Theory of Eovlution (ToE). I think you're more or less right. However, this is only the case because there is so much in suport of Evolution. Ondoher provided a nice list of just some of the...

[/color] I was under the impression that star formation worked a little like London Dispersion forces: In a mass of erratic, random particles- imbalances will occur by chance. With the case of a nebula cloud, an imbalance in the concetration of hydrogen molecules per volume will occur. This...

Gotcha. Thansk for the detailed explination. I'm only a physics-deprived molecular bio major. =P Makes sense- thanks.

Okey dokey. Then what's the physical entropy of the 2nd Law of TD?

How so? My idea of entropy is this: The greater the number of potential configurations, the greater the entropy. A sun's gravity fixes some of its composite molecules. As a result, these moleucles aren't really free floating. This idea is probably clearest when we consider a star's core...

I don't think this is the case. Dust and scattered hyrodgen atoms seem to have more entropy than a sun. At the very least, because of the structural elements of a sun, its component hydrogen molecule possess less configurational possiblities than ambient hydrogen molecules wizzing about in a...

I think this explains the conservation of energy, but not how order is arrived from disorder. Maybe. I'm just hoping that my understanding of the 2nd Law of TD isn't too layman-ish. =/

This brings up a point I've been pondering for a while. Suns form when scattered hydrogen molecules are pulled together via gravity to form a condensed ball. If the protostar is massive enough, nuclear fusion is triggered. The event of scattered hydrogen molecules forming a condensed star...

I second that motion. =P

I don't know. Your point?

Heh, it's different environment for this type of a discussion. Less anti-creation predators prowling about. =P

As an atheist, I put a premium on empirical support. From science's perspective, Evolution had been the best thing thing for Biology. Evolution unfies previously fragmented ideas and observations coherently. It's explantory power is immense- things makes sense when explained with Evolution. The...

Knowledge and belief of how the the stuff of the universe first arisen is independent of knowledge and belief of evolution. Naturally, the theistic proponent of ToE (The theory of evolution) beliefs that God created the matter and energy of the universe. The atheistic/agnostic proponent of...

Thanks for the response, Vance. The thread was getting a little one sided with all this ID-bashing. =P[/font] Do you feel that ID and ToE (The theory of evolution) are muturally exclusive? Or, if taught, should ID be considered an optional addendum to ToE?