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The majority view is still that Revelations was written in 95 A.D. Most of that is based on the word of Irenaeus. If you read Phillip Schaff you see that he and many other scholars believe it was written before the destruction of Jerusalem: (On the Early Date of Revelation) "On two points I...

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You've been through a lot. My wife and I started dating in H.S. @ 15. We are now 43. We had an abortion @ 18. It's still a wound, especially for her, but God forgives! We have 2 Childeren 21 and 18. Your in our prayers

A VERY general Statement for a VERY specific Experiment! You start with the Wrong "STUFF" your Theories based on the STUFF will NOT be anywhere close to Valid. You believe EVERYTHING you read in a College textbook ? I don't, or didn't....College is LONG gone for me :wave:

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Bunk! Miller Urey was was an experiment, nothing more than that, and one now that has been proven to be a poor one, but alas, we ALL have to deal with fits and starts. Most of us learn more from our failures and errors in thought than we do from our successes and good ideas! As for reading...

I stand Corrected: Biogenesis, which then leads down the road to Evolutionary thoughts and Concepts: at the time Miller was relying heavily on the atmospheric theories of his doctoral advisor, Nobel laureate Harold Urey. Did he create the correct atmosphere or not? Nobody knows for sure, but...

As your quote of Mr. Russell suggests something similiar to Socrates, which I like: The trouble with the world is the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt I'm full of Doubt on many things when it comes to Origins, but not as it relates to God, but your post seems to...

Kind of like what Miller-Urey did years ago working with elements they thought existed in the early atmosphere, of which today has been (actually since the 60s) has all but been proved False, but yet, it is STILL taught in our Science books as though it were valid proofs for evolution. Thanks...

http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs/405.asp Very Interesting....

While all of that is True Vance...If My kids asked me, I would point them to the books I've read by Miller, Behe, Dembski, Wells, Augustine, Warfield, Sagan. I would then point out why I believe what I believe...and even though it might NOT be a doctrinal issue that will send one to Hell...

I can appreciate your Quote here Vance: In matters that are obscure and far beyond our vision, even in such as we may find treated in Holy Scripture, different Interpretations are sometimes possible without prejudice to the faith we have received. - St. Augustine, in his analysis of Genesis...

Simplicity ! I love it :amen:

Absolutely true....

MB I believe I stated that "God is Sovereign" and that I would NOT hold Him to creating one way over the other. I only stated my reasons for believing that He didn't operate through evolution based on my opinion only. Would it affect my faith IF He operated through Evolution? Absolutely not...

I don't have a hard time with it. I have read more on both sides of this debate over the last couple of years than you can imagine. I have Read Kenneth Miller's Book, Finding Darwins God and have actually corresponded with him via email. I have Read much in I.D and A.I.G. I have read, Phillip...

I have always said that God is Sovereign. He can create any way He chooses. Do I think He created via Evolution? No I don't. I have many good scientific reasons, but I'll stick to the NOT so sceintific now: I say no for No other reason that 95 % of those that state a belief in Evolution do so...

No, but don't assume that you aren't included in Romans chapter one. Remember He hardens some and gives grace to others. Why? Totally beyond me as to why He gives some grace and others He doesn't. Remember Pharoh? Remember Paul--on the Damascus Road, then skip ahead to King Agrippa. Paul...

Haven't heard of this one. I do think AIG has some Quality articles however

Elaborate please!