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Yet Paul speaks this way in Romans 11:7 Israel has not obtained what it seeks; but the elect have obtained it, and the rest were blinded. Who were the "rest" who "were blinded"? Not the elect but Israel. Yet the "elect" who have "obtained it" are in fact Israel as well (as Paul just explained...

This is not what Paul said. If Paul is mistaken about this, then what else might he be mistaken about concerning the doctrine of election?

Paul also said: For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel. So when Paul says "they" he indeed means Israel as a group. Yet this group can be subdivided: enemies & the election. It doesn't have to mean that, but it is not inconsistent with Paul's splitting of Israel in Romans 9:6 &...

I agree. My concern is who "they" are. "They" who stumbled but not beyond recovery are those very ones whom Paul said were something "other than" the elect: Rom 11:7 What then? Israel has not obtained what it seeks; but the elect have obtained it, and the rest were blinded. 8 Just as it is...

But "all Israel will be saved" has already been defined as: 1. Those who (at some point) come to Christ. 2. Not all ethnic progeny of Abraham. (God never intended to save every single Jew as cygnusx1 said) So, as I already stated, Paul could be consistently stating this point throughout...

I think you are misunderstanding the point I was trying to make. All those texts point to the failure of man (in sin) and that by the works of the law no one will be justified. I agree. The basis I gave was faith, not works of the law, nor being sinless. This is why we have a remnant running...

God doesn't change. My quotations throughout new and old testament make this very point. There are those who are faithful and those who refuse to believe and are cut off from the people. Unless one is a universalist, this is how it goes. Jeremiah 18:9-10 tells us that whenever God makes a...

I'm sure I'm a to be labeled a synergist. I believe regeneration is all of God, following faith of course. I see the logical order as faith then regeneration. This is why I believe I would be labeled as a synergist, because I believe man is free to believe. I don't see how this is different...

I'm simply amazed at this type of response (you've made it many times). The quote from Romans 3:3 is speaking about the faithfulness of God. We both agree that God will remain faithful. But what you seem to suggest is that this means no matter what Israel does, the whole nation remains...

I don't think we are in disagreement. I'm simply trying to make an exegetical point about Romans 11.

What you are saying is that your interpretation of Romans 11:28 is such that the hardened are the elect. The problem with your interpretation is that it renders everything Paul just explained earlier as false. Therefore your interpretation of Romans 11:28 cannot be valid, for it is not...

John MacArthur (debating the no-lordship salvation position) says this in his book "Faith Works" on page 69: I point this out because, unlike the youtube video presentation, John doesn't seem to know of a Greek rule where "and that" was written the way it was on purpose to point at the whole...

This was an answer to the question: What must we do to do the work of God. The work of God is that you must believe. And this is exactly how they understood Jesus, and I think they probably knew Greek too. :) Otherwise Jesus would have been asking them to do something that they in fact don't...

John Reece, who can read Greek, was asked about this verse being used this way and his response was: Greek meaning of John 6:29

I'll have to dig it up when I get home. Here is a discussion about Eph 2:8-9 if you want to see the complexities involved: Ephesians 2:8-9

You forgot the context. Then they said to Him, “What shall we do, that we may work the works of God?” Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent.” Therefore they said to Him, “What sign will You perform then...

If faith is a gift, and God gives us faith, then it is God believing in Himself. Does God need to believe in Himself? It's gramatically incorrect to say "it is the gift of God" refers to the word faith in Eph 2. Even John MacArthur agrees (and he's a Calvinist). The gift of God is...

Is it really necessary to convert people to your view? I've always found it best to show the best arguments for each side of a debate and then let each person decide, as the Spirit leads them. It may take years for someone to be convinced.

All I can tell you is that whenever judgment is mentioned it's based on works. Salvation is based on faith. On the day of judgment we will be judged by our works which in fact prove our faith. So the passage you cite is exactly as it reads. We will be judged by our works. Romans 14:10, 2...