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Maybe also consider that the Holy Spirit of God can abode in us without us being saved. I don't believe this is saying you must obey the commandments (they are impossible to follow on our own) in order to be saved... We cannot earn salvation. It is saying as saved, the Holy Spirit within us...

I know it's rare, but I was hoping to find a matey out there in the forum...

So, the issue is (sorry if I wasn't clear) that I believe the HS is within us prior to baptism. Yet, if I want to join this church I must knowingly embrace its doctrines. It seems to state that in baptism, one receives the HS... As if THEN... To me, it seems that receiving the HS has been...

I was hoping to connect with any Primary Immunodificiency people here at the XianForums. CVID, dx-ed in my 50s, though could have been picked up on much sooner. Having IVIg now and just trying to live in the new cycle. Hope to hear from someone else, even tho we're rare.

I'm on the same page. I need help abt this Lutheran doctrine , tho. It can't be something Lutherans know abt and just sweep aside, knowing it's not what they personally believe, can it? Sigh

Thank you. I thought if I join this church, then I'm saying I believe what the Lutheran doctrines state. Our Pastor (fairly new to us) has stated it as Lutheran doctrine and is teaching/reaffirming it to all of us. I believe we receive the HS prior, or we cld not be saved. I don't like the...

Being raised and spent many decades as a Methodist, I am attending and considering becoming a member of the Lutheran church. I've been so fulfilled by the change, and then this doctrine comes to my attention and has me very distressed. Can you advise? It is being reiterated to the...

God knows what we are going to do with our free will. That's how we can be chosen. We don't know it but he knew us before we were even conceived.

It is believed part of the reason he conformed to the wish was that his faith in God to find a resolve was what he was standing on. Perhaps he even felt his son wld be risen frm the dead. His faith seemed to make him believe in an outcome he couldn't fathom.

It was explained that you can't fall away after you are truly saved, because the presence of the HS means you have all you need to persevere

What first came to mind when I read what was written in this post was that either Moses, the Jewish faithful or the early church was given the authority to determine what is acceptable abt divorce... They determined (evil) man could not follow God's rule of never divorcing, so divorce guidlines...

The Xian church calendar, or liturgical calendar is a tool, a teaching tool as well as a worshipping tool. It doesn't start on jan1 and it teaches us the chronologic birth, life, death, resurrection, and ascention of Christ. The date picked to celebrate Christ's birth isn't the date of...

Hmm. How do I explain this.. Our thoughts sometimes aren't realistic, and we develop ways of automatically thinking things that aren't always accurate. Make sense? It's called Cognitive thought processing. Have you ever had someone hear a conversation and come away with a completely...

The reformation and the following Lutheran denomination checks all the boxes for me. I left Methodism after decades and am contented. Lutherans are now spliting into groups , so there's some research you'll need to do. . But I'm very comfortable with the doctrines.

Often debate is dirtied with thought distortions and mental distortions and becomes something else. A woman once apologized to me because she said in her household that the sister who argued the loudest and longest ... Won. So, winning a debate doesn't always mean a winner is right, sometimes...

I'm not real comfortable with stating anything now, after being told that if I believe a certain way that my whole Bible-based knowledge is bunk... And, I've not time to read every single thing posted here, I just wanted to post Rev 3:10... If it has not already been mentioned and refuted...

It's possible that you are limiting God's hand in your life by accepting only pre-conceived ideas about what that looks like. This may be a control issue. "God doesn't want to hear me" suggests you believe you know God's mind. That sent up a red flag for me. Your own thoughts might be...

Is it possible that, like the parable of sowing seeds, that some folks were enthusiastic abt Xianity but had no roots and so they may not have been 'true' disciples.? If the HS is present, we have all we need to remain Xian. I really belive that nothing can take away our salvation. The answer...

But those are messages for the unsaved, yes. Those needing salvation. Once saved from sin, the HS is enabling us to live a sanctifying life. We can't do that ourselves, by will. Our sins are forgiven. Does this not speak of the unforgiven sins.

What are you saying, though. Jason. That's a lot of words but what are you saying.