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Good points. Thanks a lot for replying. :) Yeah, it's totally possible. Since God is preventing it from happening, it's possible that He talks as if He's doing. I mean in effect He is doing it since He prevents Satan from doing many things but decides to let him have his way in certain...

True. Thanks. I'm wondering if you can share any Bible verses or incidents which you base that opinion on.

Context: My dad and I have often disagreed between an event which is recorded in Exodus. I'm being vague because I don't want anyone's answers to be influenced by it. I read this section today and I thought I'd like to get more clarity on this (which may give me more clarity on the exodus...

Sorry for the late reply guys. Perhaps, we can start with Mark or 1 Samuel. Or if you guys have any suggestions we can think of that as well.

It's basically like a book club and the book we're reading is the Bible. We can decide on which part of the Bible to read.

Hey, I'm sorry I missed your reply somehow. Well, I was talking about that specific thing. Sure, in the Bible we don't have a statement like "Jesus healed everyone who came to him with faith." But then again we don't have any statement which says Jesus didn't heal someone who came to him with...

Hmm not really. Sorry, I'm not sure if I understand you.

Well, I'm sure Jesus would have healed the man either way. The teachers of the law sitting there thought Jesus was blaspheming as soon as he told the man his sin's are forgiven. And then Jesus said that and healed the man. Everything happened in quick succession. Suppose Jesus had sent the man...

Yeah, I totally agree. It's just that I was surprised by the preceding phrase 'he saw their faith'. I was first wondered why the other people's faith would have any effect on the paralyzed man's sins being forgiven. After posting here and also thinking about it, now I think it's just that all of...

Oh I was talking about forgiving. Not the healing part. I agree with you about what you said about him healing the guy.

Interesting. I'll think about it. Thanks. :)

Perhaps the Mark includes the paralyzed man, too , when he writes 'their'. But isn't it odd that others be included when talking about someone's forgiveness?

Absolutely. So do you agree that we can say that obedience to laws is necessary now too? Not because we can ever gain our salvation from it but because keeping God’s laws is obviously the good thing to do. And it also shows if we really do love Him. Jesus himself said it. (1) Are we in agreement...

Well, my point is that they didn't break the Sabbath to begin with.

Paul says that because we cannot earn our salvation by keeping any laws. That’s why he says we are not under the law but under grace. So it’s clear he’s talking about how we get our salvation which is through grace alone. We’re on the same page on that. He talks about that in Romans 6:14. In...

We can never earn heaven through our works. Our righteousness is dirt compared to God's righteousness. We can only go to heaven by God's grace. I think we're on the same page regarding that. 1. But are you sure it's correct to say we are no longer striving to live our lives according to a set...

I take that as a yes. You haven't answered my follow up question. Wouldn't it mean that they also encompass things like not worshiping other Gods, not making idols, not taking God's name in vain, not working on Sabbaths?

Hey, sorry not sure how I haven't replied you yet. I just noticed it while trying to locate another reply. Yes, that's true. I do those things too. I don't think it's appropriate for me to comment on what others chose to do. Since this thread is about the Sabbath stuff and cooking in...

Interesting info. I don't know about the different types of Pharisees. I should read about them in some reputed book some time. I think it'll be good to get a better understanding of how Israel was back in the day when Jesus was there. Does your clarification relate to the topic at hand or...

You've mentioned Sunday several times. So I assume you're not an Adventist. In that case, whether or not it's OK to cook on Sabbath doesn't even come into the picture I think. Because Sabbath cooking issue is only a subset of the larger issue of whether Sabbath keeping is necessary at all. And...