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  1. Qoheleth

    Frank Sheed

    Although I know many think very highly of Frank Sheed and so do I but, what stands out for you as the greatest insight or teaching of Frank Sheed that has influenced you and your understanding of the faith? For example Mr. Sheed stated: "Sin, for instance, is an effort to gain something against...
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    Bread Type Caused The Schism?

    With that said, interesting read (though many EO poo poo this)... Ecumenism today: the universal ... - Google Books Q
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    ok, question, again

    Is that all?? ok...expected Q
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    ok, question, again

    An objective Orthodox perspective... Ecumenism today: the universal ... - Google Books Q
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    Uncreated grace...?

    And yet to be clear on the matter... Theosis is the understanding that human beings can have real union with God, and so become like God to such a degree that we participate in the divine nature. Also referred to as deification, divinization, or illumination, it is a concept derived from the...
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    Uncreated grace...?

    I did not suggest semantics. Also it is clear that Catholicism believes that participation in the life of the Trinity is absolutely essential... it is what we are created for...union (communion). "Since it was the will of God's only begotten Son that human beings should share in his divinity...
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    Uncreated grace...?

    Interesting perspective. And just to piggy back off of this thought...maybe the differences are philosophical in perspective not theological and therefore not heretical. Just as some practices in Catholicism are not theologically wrong they are considered liturgically misguided (or...
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    Western Rite Orthodox

    Yes, Holy Incarnation (Mich) celebrates the Gregorian Mass. My understanding is that the WR are the fastest growing missions within the AOC, and not for the purpose of being a "bridge". Q
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    Western Churches coming into the Orthodox Church: what does this mean practically?

    And so we are back to why someone would attend a 2 hour Antiochian Liturgy in favor of a Russian 4 hour Liturgy...that is if we all should ,"strive to have the most beautiful serive that you can have"... as you say. If one attends a Liturgy (or becomes Orthodox) because its the most beautiful...
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    Western Churches coming into the Orthodox Church: what does this mean practically?

    The same can be said of the Coptic liturgy as compared to the Chrysostom Liturgy, e.g. And so opinions are opinions...is there anything concrete that can/or reasonably be discussed? Q
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    Western Churches coming into the Orthodox Church: what does this mean practically?

    Yes, they should be as well as the Gallican rites which are both very eastern and western in flavor. And again, I may be mistaken but the schism and later east/west divisive issues were not with Liturgical forms and customs. Disclaimer: yes, I attend a WR mission. I was received into...
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    Western Churches coming into the Orthodox Church: what does this mean practically?

    I may be mistaken but isnt the Rite of St. Gregory (Gregorian Mass) which the WRO serve, the oldest liturgy? It seems to be forgotten in these conversations. Q
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    confused about something

    We believe that the Lord is Present in the Eucharist and Christ is adored/worshiped/venerated always in every place at all times. I believe consecration of the gifts where their only purpose is for adoration to be problematic and misguided, yet not Idolatry for it is Christ Himself present. Q
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    confused about something

    Agreed. I believe that Adoration/worship/veneration/devotion are all due to Christ. I think the question is that of Perpetual Adoration or consecration with Adoration as its focus. Yet even in the West, all gifts consecrated for Adoration are consumed. On the other hand, icons are venerated...
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    The Orthodox Study Bible

    Any opinions on this... http://www.orthodox-church.info/eob/ Q
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    The Orthodox Study Bible

    Originally Posted by NyssaTheHobbit You should see all the notes in the Jewish Study Bible. Oftentimes there are more notes on a page than text! I'd love to see an Orthodox study Bible get that detailed. It occurred to me, even as interesting as it sounds, would it really be...
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    WRV Liturgy not the only thing borrowed from Anglicans

    Yes, youre right of course. Mea culpa Q
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    WRV Liturgy not the only thing borrowed from Anglicans

    The devotions, prayers, novenas and what not existed before 1947 or the BCP. Older Roman Missals and Breviary's will bear this out. Nothing borrowed from the Anglicans technically speaking. Hopefully you are fluent in Latin. My apologies about the knee jerk though. BTW, what church do you...