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Could it be that the "Temple" is just a metaphor for physical existence? Could this not be what is meant by the phrase that one can only come to God "in Spirit and in Truth"?

Numbers 21:4-9 (New International Version) The Bronze Snake 4 They traveled from Mount Hor along the route to the Red Sea,to go around Edom. But the people grew impatient on the way; 5 they spoke against God and against Moses, and said, "Why have you brought us up out of Egypt to die in the...

There are only two types of Masonic "secrets". First, the "modes of recognition", i.e. signs and grips. All of which are posted all over the web. Second, the form or wording of the various rituals used to confer the degrees. The lessons of the degrees have been written about in profusion for...

Mike Our posts crossed, I see that my faith has been well founded. Thanks for making my day. George

Being the eternal optimist, I will choose to believe it was a compliment until evidence to the contrary proves me wrong.

Mike, Was that a sincere sentiment? If so, bravo. George

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Now that makes sense to me.

If the relationship Man had with God before the Fall was severed is seems obvious to me that Christ's incarnation was to restore that relationship. ReUNITED with God. However, the term "Saved" would suggest that there were some peril or condition that one needs to be saved from. My question...

It would be obvious what we are saved "unto", but what then are we saved "from"?

If there is no everlasting torment of Hell, do we need a "Saviour"?

Bishop Carlton Pearson has taken much criticism and rejection for his "Gospel of Inclusion". What are your thoughts?

Well, Fishy, The opening statement of the lecture of the Third degree in Ohio plainly states that the manner of the death of Hiram Abiff is furnished "by Masonic tradition alone"! That is an "Official Masonic authority", per your definition and a clear "disclaimer"!

Are we, according to this verse, what God has made us? Sounds rather "Masonic" to me!

According to the 5th verse of Isaiah 64, it would seem that "works", i.e. gladly doing right and remembering God's ways, will invoke God's help. And it would seem that God's anger was a result of those who sinned against those who gladly did right and remembered God's ways. Everything...

That is a matter of opinion. My heart's all a-twitter with anticipation!

And I have a question as well, what do you think it means to "love them"?

And they can, but as far as Masonry is concerned, is only important that a Mason be as Masonic as possible and follow their religious beliefs within their hearts to the best of their abilities. I don't mean to be nit-picky but this is where the whole discussion of Masonry and Christianity get...

I'm not quite sure what the point of this question is. There are Masons that are Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, etc., etc., all of which are "less Christian than . . . . " It is none of Masonry's concern.

This would explain those loud clanging noises I hear in my head when I read some of Mike's posts! Rev. Wayne, Thanks for your excellent response. I was afraid that I might have to change my signature at the bottom if Mike were right! (Mike, Now that we've read this gem of an argument you've...