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    OSAS? What do you believe?

    Disciple 2003, You say that the author of hebrews talks to all christians ever. Be careful with this line of thinking. Within the context of Hebrews, he is only speaking to the Jewish christians of the time. What he says could apply to all of us, but he is only specifically speaking to the...
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    OSAS? What do you believe?

    Wow...a lot has happened since I last checked. I will be plain and straight forward here. Here is what I believe. In the beginning, before the creation of anything, God chose the elect, those to be saved in the future. (Ephesians 1:4, Romans 8:29) He then made many covenants and etc with...
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    OSAS? What do you believe?

    As you can see, I am not calvinist. =D I am not saying that everyone who professed to be christians in ephesues was saved. I am not even saying that everyone who says their christians today are saved. I think Paul is talking to the saints. Ephsians 1:1 "to the saints who are at Ephesus" If...
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    OSAS? What do you believe?

    =D I've been through those verses before. Oh boy have I been through those verses. There are also these verses too which help you out. 1st John 2:18, Hebrews 10:28-39, Galations 5:4 and there are many more out there. This is a point of great contention within christians for many many...
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    OSAS? What do you believe?

    Just a quick insert here. You notice in the verses that gives us our assurance, 2nd Peter 1:9-11, I read those verses as we are working to make sure that he has called us to salvation. (As in he really predestined us and etc.) Once again, his election and sovereignty comes first. Another verse...
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    Rejected Christ after Salvation?

    Ok, I just read the last page! =D I believe that Christ's death was power enough to nail all sins to the cross. Romans clearly supports this. =D Even Calvin, in his later years, admitted to the fact that Christ's death was power enough to clear everyone, but effectively only for the elect.
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    Rejected Christ after Salvation?

    Well, I haven't read this entire thread, but just posing a few questions here. =D Before I say anything, I would like for everyone to know that I am not calvinist nor am I armenianist. =D Going to Hebrews, it says in many places that the author is speaking to christians, remarks such as...
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    Predestination/"Free Will"

    Very good points! =D We are all in search of spiritual truth, and this is the reason why I love this forum so much. I am able to converse my fellow brothers and see what they think about an issue. =D I am very sorry that I quoted Psalms wrong. I will go back and look at the context again...
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    Rejected Christ after Salvation?

    Good points =D We definately see eye to eye on this... =D Even though I like talking about soteriology, I definately agree with you that disagreement to the point of division definately doesn't bring glory to God. I don't think that that was the reason that Peter and Paul didn't hang...
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    Israel

    i'm confused..... =D
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    Rejected Christ after Salvation?

    I can see our viewpoint. But let me ask you a question. How does God work in you? A lot of times, God uses other people to cause you to grow. I mean it doesn't cause divisions in the body unless someone comes at it with pride in their heart. It is my opinion that discussions about God...
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    Rejected Christ after Salvation?

    I completely agree with you, and I have definately had those rough times when I stopped believing that I deserved the grace of God and it is by his mercy that I am still with Him! =D Scripture, is ONE document. It says one thing. =D Only one interpretation is correct. I think that its...
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    Rejected Christ after Salvation?

    I completely agree with you FOMWATTs, but there are many verses in scripture that make it seem as if you can lose your salvation. Like for example, the last verse in Hebrews 10, 2nd Peter 2:20, in fact, hebrews, by itself make it seem as if you are able to lose your salvation. For example...
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    Israel

    Romans 11:17-19 17If some of the branches have been broken off, and you, though a wild olive shoot, have been grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing sap from the olive root, 18do not boast over those branches. If you do, consider this: You do not support the root, but...
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    Original Sin

    Yes, our theology does seem to be fairly close. =D Praise the Lord! About my question about Christ having saving faith, it is my understanding that Christ was born righteous so therefore he had no use for saving faith. As it says in Hebrews 12, he is the author and mediator of our faith...
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    Who do we pray to? Have a relationship with?

    Hey! =D I really like this line of theology! Especially how you guys are carrying it out! Absolute no pride whatsoever! =D We know that sin came through Adam, and left through Christ. I think its safe to say that God the Father sent Christ to the earth to atone for our sins. So...
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    Rejected Christ after Salvation?

    Endure, if I may direct you to Matt 6:24. You are either with God or against God. There is no partially with God or half way, you are either walking with him or you are against him. Let me direct you again to 1st Cor 15:55-57. What does that say about death and sin? Our sins are...
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    Predestination/"Free Will"

    Endure: I definately agree with you. Upon other points, the doctrine of limited atonement is deifnately one that has really turned me away from Calvinism. Of course, Calvin, later in life has been recorded to say that the strength Christ's death on the cross is strong enough for the world, but...
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    Original Sin

    Ok, that definately cleared a lot of things up. I need things finely chewed for me. =D I think that Hebrews 11:1 is definately a great verse to quote here. I trust that you have read the verse and will not write it here. =D I mean I have faith of things which haven't come. I definately...
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    Original Sin

    Wow, that really was a mouthful and it has been helpful, once I go through and am able to cf the verses and etc etc etc, I am sure that it will be more helpful. I do believe in God's Word. I do stick by 2nd Timothy 3:16. =D Great verse! Just reading your post over, it seems to be a...