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    The sabath.

    "There is no scriptural reasons for Sunday just as there are no verses which say the Sabbath is for only Hebrews, Jews, or Yahudim." Bad logic. Similarly, there are no Scriptural reasons to suggest that the Sabbath is not the 7th day - just depending on what day you start counting on. Secondly...
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    Where in the Holy Quran do we find these?

    Actually................. yeah. We do see some Christians behaving in that manner. cp. the Tsunami and the reactions of Jerry Fallwell and Co. Also, there were many who were saying that the demolition of so many lives was a just and perfect punishment from the Divine. Also, if I recall...
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    Are there any Jewish fundamentalists?

    There are fringe groups, yes. I, myself, think Zionists are fundamentalists..... purely my opinion, of course. Some would include the Mossad under this category. I would not, since one is theological, the other political. May I suggest: World Agudath Israel as a better example?
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    love

    RE: OP.... hinges on the meaning of "love" ambiguity, discord, confusion, and disagreement reign when that word is considered. RE: peaceful soul: "Godly love is something absent in Islam." .......... Well, I think that's quite a wild, unjustified, ungrounded statement there! I recognize it is...
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    Where in the Holy Quran do we find these?

    Actually, excepting the Wahhaabism of the Saudi's, non-Islamic religions are not banned in the Arab world. Have you been to the Arab world or are you relying on the reports of the US media? I'm just asking, because I've actually been to and seen beautiful churches etc. in Middle Eastern...
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    Would this change your view of the bible?

    Why the mad desire to turn brutal armed conflict into a theological event? Why deny the obvious political-economic reality of the situation and instead search ancient Hebraic texts for precident? odd...... In response to the OP, no, none of the "recent" events in the Israeli-Rest Of the Planet...
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    Where in the Holy Quran do we find these?

    tricky. Gotta establish that the punishments listed are not merely for those of the Israelite body. i.e. much of Deut. is directed for dealing with crimes/sins within the community of Israelites/Hebrews. Doesn't support an argument that the OT Divinity supported terrorism. As an aside, there is...
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    Israel? Chosen People?

    Does Israel take as its conception (so to speak) Adam and Eve? Abraham? Or when Jacob is re-named Israel (cp. Gen. 35:9-12)? What is the reason for the problem with the Israelites not marrying Israelites? (cp. Ezra 9:1-4) Are the commands in Deuteronomy 7:1-5 universal for all time or merely for...
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    Quran!

    Am I missing something? It seems like you already know what it means? :confused:
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    Who has the testimony of God?

    hunh. Actually..... Alston defends religious experience as a grounds for religious belief. :)
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    Who has the testimony of God?

    hmmmm..... Not sure how to take this yet. . . . William Alston's "Religious Experience as a Ground of Religious Belief" in Religious Experience and Religious Belief, eds. J. Runzo and C. Ihara (1986)
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    Why Islam?

    A Muslim will tell you that Islam offers a complete fullness of revelation that ammends, corrects, and warns all - thus surpassing the previous revelations in perfection. That is what a Muslim will tell you, and from a Muslim's perspective, this is the truth. And that answers your question...
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    Wicca + Other Religions = Same Beliefs

    I confess to utter confusion and ignorance about Wicca - which is why I never post in such threads. But here I am breaking all the rules today - look at the rebel now! :D Anyway, the distinctions between Wicca, Druidism, Paganism, Magic (and all alternate spellings), New-Age, Occult, and so...
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    Where did orthrodox Christianity go?

    Well, since you know how to argue, it should have been utterly clear that I was questioning your positing of a universal statement which is not self-evidently true. This statement of yours: [/color][/font][/color][/font]"whether something is true or not CANNOT be determined with complete...
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    The Antichrists

    huh. Cratylus comes to mind. :)
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    Where did orthrodox Christianity go?

    Huh. "whether something is true or not CANNOT be determined with complete accuracy by human agency because of our inherent imperfections, such as arrogance, pride, predetermined ideas and such." IS THAT completely ACCURATE? Quite an epistemological quagmire you've got yourself into with...
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    an epistle to our new muslim friend, mr. nasir

    Fallacy of logic/argument. Argument based on unsubstantiated authority. Even many Christians are not expected to adhere to C.S. Lewis' argument - Roman Catholics, for example. Secondly, if you are allowed to posit Lewis, your opponent should be allowed to posit the philosophers and...
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    The Just Judge from Christian point of view...

    Bushmaster, I am interested in seeing the theology and resources behind your theory of the judgment. :) In the meantime, the clearest explanation of the judgment of mankind, IMNSHO, is found in Matthew 25........ so, Christians feel free to explain (NOT ARGUE) the following verses: Mat...
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    Islamic veiling practices

    As I have said before in this very thread: I believe the interpretation of the pertinent Qur'anic verses is oft seen as referring only to the women of the Prophet himself. (i.e. the women surrounding him). And if anyone would care to argue about the validity of this interpretation, I propose...
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    Jesus is a Prophet

    The Original Post on this thread is assuming a commensurability between the Muslim use (cp. Arabic etc.) of the word "Prophet" and the Hebrew use of the word. Until it is proved that both words have the exact same referent, the argument is moot. :)