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    Calvinism, Arminianism, Other-ism?

    Greetings to all in the name of Christ our Lord :amen: I am particularly interested in views other than Calvinism and Arminianism. It seems to me that doctrinally most peopel fall into one or the other of these two camps, though very many will not admit as much. They will say "They are extreme...
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    Universalism is not a heresy!

    Hi all. I have been doing some reading and as best I can tell, universalism is not a heresy! I am not trying to ‘convert’ anyone to universalism, I just want to know what you think of this. Here are my reasons: 1. universalists believe that God will save all those He wants to save...
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    The Way of Our Salvation

    Greetings to all :D I would like to know if anyone out there classifies themselves as something other than Calvinist or Arminian. These two positions do appear to be the main choices, but what other options are there? Blessings to all, Pete
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    The Arminian Challenge - Episode Six

    Hi all. :wave: How do you Arminians handle this? Joh 10:27 My sheep know my voice, and I know them. They follow me, Joh 10:28 and I give them eternal life, so that they will never be lost. No one can snatch them out of my hand. Joh 10:29 My Father gave them to me, and he is greater...
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    The Arminian Challenge - Episode Five

    Hi all. :wave: How do you Arminians handle this? Premise 1 - Jesus died for everyone Premise 2 - Not everyone will appropriate that sacrifice and be saved Conclusion - Jesus died in vain, at least in part, for some of His blood was shed for people who do not accept it
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    The Arminian Challenge - Episode Four

    Hi all. :wave: How do you Arminians handle this? Premise 1 - Jesus is the Saviour of the world Premise 2 - Not all will be saved Conclusion - Jesus is NOT the Saviour of the world, He is only the Saviour of those whom He actually saves.
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    The Arminian Challenge - Episode Three

    Hi all. :wave: How do you Arminians handle this? Premise 1 - God loves us unconditionally (ie without any conditions) Premise 2 - If you do not respond to Him, you will be eternally damned Conclusion - God only loves us on the condition that we respond to Him, and thus He does not...
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    The Arminian Challenge - Episode Two

    Hi all. :wave: How do you Arminians handle this? Premise 1 - As is shown in Genesis, man was unable to choose toward God in his pre-fallen state. Premise 2 - Man is able to choose God now (post fallen state), and must do so to be saved. Conclusion - The fall improved man
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    The Arminian Challenge - Episode One

    Hi all. :wave: How do you Arminians handle this? Premise 1 - God eagerly desires the salvation of all. Premise 2 - Not all will be saved. Conclusion - God is eternally unhappy and unsatisified
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    God IS Love - an affirmation that you cannot make.

    Greetings all:wave: In 1 John 4:8, John writes that God IS love. This is not to say that God HAS love. No it is much bigger than that. God actually IS love. Most Christians love to quote this verse yet it is an affirmation that few Christians can honestly make. Calvinists cannot make such...
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    Union With Christ

    Greetings all :wave: It is my understanding from reading the Bible that every single person is united with Christ, and by default the whole Trinity, in a union that was not created by the individual and cannot be destroyed by the individual. The way I read it, Christ joined Himself to me...
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    Calvinism - originated in the Quran?

    Hi folks :wave: What do you all think of the belief that the Quran teaches Calvin's/Augustine's pre-destination? If We had so willed, We could certainly have brought every soul its true guidance: but the Word from Me will come true, "I will fill Hell with Jinns and men all together."----...
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    God's Justice

    Greetings all. ;) I would like to open a discussion (a lop sided one!) on the justice of God. I am of the opinion that God's justice is not like ours. Our justice is about retribution. God's justice is about restoration. So far, I can only appeal to logic to support my premise. As a...
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    Universalism

    Greetings and Blessings to all :wave: When discussing universalism, the usual opposition given is that it renders Christ's cross meaningless. Yet this is not necessarily the case. While some forms of universalism do indeed make this dreadful error, not all do. The most common form of...
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    Elhannan Winchester

    Quote from Elhannan Winchester: I have often considered it with astonishment, that two ministers shall preach, and prove what they say from the scriptures, and neither of them shall be looked upon as holding damnable heresy, and yet we shall be looked upon as the worst of heretics by...
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    Question for the Arminians, from a non-Calvinist

    Greetings all :wave: It seems to me, having been an Arminian for many years, that thier position is that God wants all to be saved but this will not happen. So if we say that God does indeed desire the Salvation of all mankind - this is His hearts desire - and that this will not eventuate...
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    Changing Roles in Motherhood

    Hi everyone. I am writing this on behalf of my wife Deanne. With children growing up, (our youngest are now 4 year old twin girls, about to begin kindergarten), Deanne is seeing her role as a Mum change and she is unsure of herself. For the past few years, her life has been motherhood. No...
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    A question for the Calvinists

    Hi all. Let me make it perfectly clear that I am not an Arminian seeking to have an argument. I am an Australian and the cast majority of us are Arminian and that is what I was when I joined the church. I have seen many flaws in this theology and as such no longer align myself with it...
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    Is the Bible infallible?

    Greetings to all. I am interested in other people's opinion on this subject. In church we are taught that the Bible is infallible; ie. every word is accurate and perfect. I do not believe this. I used to, of course, when it was taught to me as a new Christian, but then I actually read the...
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    Good News: Hell is not forever!

    Hello all. I would like to have a pleasant discussion on the above topic. The basis for the statement that hell is not eternal is the belief that the Greek words translated as eternal and everlasting simply do not have the connotation of endlessness. The Greek form for "everlasting...