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Greetings robinriley, I would like to slide in here for a clarifying question regarding 1 Corinthians 2:9, without intent to derail this thread. From post #8... From post #12 ... Preferring your rendering in post #8, I ask regarding post #12: If “AN~EYE HAD SEEN NOT,AND AN~EAR HAD HEARD...

:wave:  Wonder, This man wants to gain eternal life.  Messiah responded that the man would need to keep the commandments in order to enter into life.  The man apparently believed himself to be keeping the law, blamelessly and evidently with good conscience.  And in this...

:wave: endure, Now, that there was an elaborate response!  I will not even attempt to delve into the various tangents that are available therein.  Suffice it to say that I have a handle on were you are – and was not offended by what you offered.   I am not your...

:wave: <><, are you still there???  :) “For Christ is the end of the law, with the result that there is righteousness for everyone who believes.”  Everyone who believes Christ completed the full requirements of the law are accounted as righteous - righteous by...

 :wave:  endure, Pleased to see you found the humor in the irony of my oversimplification…. Should you find satisfactory answers to your above listed questions, I will be flabbergasted.  As you go alook’in I would like to throw in a few more questions for you to watch out...

:wave:  FineLinen, Hmmmmm, “reaches as far as the curse is found!”  It seems even more limited.  This limited atonement of our Lord ONLY reaches to everyone who has sin.  Yes, yes … there is a definite limit to the atonement of Jesus Christ!  There must be sin for...

  :wave: FineLinen, “Let’s put it this way” ….. ehhhhhh! :)  Personally I would have never, ever thought of putting it that way ….. but it flows quite nicely.  However, if you should elect to go speeding down the Greek road, I’ll wave to you while standing in your plume of...

 :wave: Here’s a big picture…………. It ought not bother us that people who believe in free will do.  For so they were predestined! :) It ought not bother us that people who believe in predestination do.  For it is their choice! :)

 :wave: Wonder, How did we get "in Adam"?  Did we have a choice?  How did we get "in Christ"?  Did we have a choice? Sometimes it's a bummer being "in Adam", BUT "in Christ" - that's not the case.     Maranatha,  &nbsp...

:wave: mellymell, When you have a few free moments, and if you care to, would you kindly develop a couple of aspects of your analogy?  Is there anything that would prevent a child from seeking higher education other than the father’s “pay 1 get 4 free deal”?  I mean like, work...

 :wave: Pastor N.B., I think we are doing fine!  It's one step at a time.... Maranatha  :)   

    Andrew, :wave: It is glorious the way we GOT SAVED through the efforts of Jesus Christ and God the Father.  Hopefully we will come to believe more of His incredible plan, that was ordained before the foundation of the earth, that God the Father has positively...

:wave: Pastor N.B. I know of no Bible verse that indicates what law has been "voided out", or what law(s) has/have not been "voided out".  Nor was my post in regards to a “voided out” law.  Since I do not see the missive, I assume it will be elevated to a status of omission...

:wave: I can go with that, thank you,  :)

:wave: Yes, I did lift the scripture out of context.   You say, “demons are condemned already.”   I’m not sure where that’s written, but OK.  Why can’t a demon repent, believe in Jesus and be “restored” to its former condition?  It’s easy for me to say, “No way”...

:wave:  Wonder, I assume that the scripture you allude to is John 15, if this is not the case, please give me directions….. John 15:1 “I am the true vine and my Father is the gardener. 15:2 He takes away every branch that does not bear fruit in me. He prunes every branch that bears...

      :wave:  :idea:  Does this mean believing demons will be saved? :confused:  

:wave:  FluviusNeckar, Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know beyond a doubt that God has made this Jesus whom you crucified both Lord and Christ.” 2:37 Now when they heard this, they were acutely distressed and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, “What should we...