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  1. lucaspa

    Muslim Prayer Opens Delaware State Senate

    Listening to a non-Christian prayer makes you shudder? Why? Is your faith that weak that you feel you will convert to another religion? Do you feel God is so parochial that He does not listen to prayers from all His children? Of course, there's also the issue of whether "Allah" is a...
  2. lucaspa

    Muslim Prayer Opens Delaware State Senate

    Christianity is no guarantee of liberty. Christian history is replete with tyrannical forms of government claiming to derive their tyranny from Christianity. The Founding Fathers had had a revolution against British "tyranny" of a country that had a state Christian religion. Absolute...
  3. lucaspa

    Muslim Prayer Opens Delaware State Senate

    "idolatry" is worship of a false idol. No one here is doing that. They are simply listening to a Muslim prayer. One form of idolatry is Bibliolatry: Bibliolatry -- Bible Worship https://web.archive.org/web/20070909092136/http://www.newreformation.org What is Fundamentalism? So this might...
  4. lucaspa

    Apparent Age & The Incredible Foreknowledge of God

    You've said quite a bit about God's knowledge. But you haven't addressed the overwhelming problem of God's honesty and integrity. What you are saying is that God is an incredibly smart and accomplished liar! Do you really want God's thoughts to be those of a liar? Especially after telling...
  5. lucaspa

    Prove it or remove it challenge II

    FutureandAHope said in the first iteration of this thread: "We see fossils of dinosaurs, horses, birds, so from the very beginning of creation until now we have a record of animals that have lived. So really what should we expect to see in the fossil record, we should expect to see changes...
  6. lucaspa

    JW JW: Jehovah's witnesses theology- pagan trinity, Jesus and Michael, inspiration and other topics

    It is used as a designation, but not a "name". The competing religions around ancient Israel had many gods, and those gods had names: Marduk, Apsu, Tiamet, Horus, Ra, Osiris, Seth, Baal, etc. What a "name" does is indicate 2 individuals of the same class. For instance, you and I are both...
  7. lucaspa

    JW JW: Jehovah's witnesses theology- pagan trinity, Jesus and Michael, inspiration and other topics

    Israel, and especially Genesis 1, is completely monotheistic. Also, God does not have a name. So, how do you designate a deity that you can't use a name for? There were 2 traditions used in the Pentateuch: 1. Yahweh. In Hebrew this is "I am" and is the answer the Burning Bush gave to Moses...
  8. lucaspa

    JW JW: Jehovah's witnesses theology- pagan trinity, Jesus and Michael, inspiration and other topics

    http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/trinity/trinity-history.html https://carm.org/early-trinitarian-quotes http://www.staycatholic.com/ecf_the_trinity.htm So we have Justin Martyr, Ignatius of Antioch, Irenaeus, Origen, and, as you pointed out, Tertullian. Among others. The doctrine was being...
  9. lucaspa

    How old is the earth and the sun?

    That is not why they thought our galaxy was the entire universe. It was not because "the majority agreed with them". The reason was that their telescopes were not powerful enough to discern that distant galaxies were galaxies. In the telescopes, they appeared to be stars. You don't believe...
  10. lucaspa

    How old is the earth and the sun?

    Very much so. Schroeder does some horrendous physics. BTW, he is not an earth scientist. He was never educated in geology. Again, very much so. He insists on a young earth despite all the data to the contrary. And no, it is not just a "different interpretation" of the same data. Wise...
  11. lucaspa

    How old is the earth and the sun?

    You need to read the first quote in my signature. It's not "the Bible" that is contradicted by God's Creation, but rather human interpretations of the Bible. Neither one. I can understand the Parable of the Prodigal Son quite well without any science. Science doesn't help. Likewise, the...
  12. lucaspa

    How old is the earth and the sun?

    The "fossils with organic material still intact" is referring to 2 papers by Schwietzer and Horner in Science volume 316, published in 2007. They were looking at the marrow cavity of a T. rex fossil. I have PDFs of the papers. There was residual organic material, but it was not "intact". It...
  13. lucaspa

    How old is the earth and the sun?

    No Christian tradition has Abraham writing Genesis. The traditional author is Moses. So all this about Abraham is irrelevant. In fact, scholarship has established that Moses did not write the Pentateuch, either. Genesis 1 was written about 500 BC, either at the end of or shortly after the...
  14. lucaspa

    How old is the earth and the sun?

    First, I'm not sure the information you are giving us is correct. The statement about silicon dioxide on a silicon wafer has some errors in it. http://scme-nm.org/files/Rainbow_Activity_PG.pdf The layer is silicon dioxide but 15 angstroms thick. Can you give us a citation from your...
  15. lucaspa

    How old is the earth and the sun?

    No, it doesn't. You are ignoring what the authors are trying to do. They are setting up 24 hour days. For that you need a morning and evening. Now, why are they setting up 24 hour days? Because they are tying creation to the 4th commandment to keep the sabbath. Look at Exodus 20:11...
  16. lucaspa

    How old is the earth and the sun?

    You also forgot the error bars. In any measurement, the value always lies within a range. Those are the "error bars". What they gave you at the websites are the mean and they left out the range. Try this site: http://solar-center.stanford.edu/FAQ/Qage.html Notice that they say "4.57 +/-...
  17. lucaspa

    JW JW: Jehovah's witnesses theology- pagan trinity, Jesus and Michael, inspiration and other topics

    Why do you say "pagan trinity"? The formulators of Trinity were working very much within the Jewish tradition. True, because they spoke Greek, they used Greek words in describing Trinitarian Christology, but the concept preserves the strict monotheism of Judaism. In contrast, JW Christology...
  18. lucaspa

    Would someone please enlighten me on the official beliefs of the Methodist church?

    I would agree that most laypeople are fuzzy about what UMC doctrine actually is. I know my parents were. I got a more thorough grounding (Articles of Faith) during confirmation and even more deep when I did the God and Country badge for Boy Scouts. That's where I came across the Wesley...
  19. lucaspa

    Would someone please enlighten me on the official beliefs of the Methodist church?

    Like any large denomination, there is variability from church to church and some regional variation. Also, like all "mainline" denominations, the UMC has to deal with Fundamentalists within the ranks. By "Fundamentalist" I do not mean a generic "conservative", but a religion based upon a...
  20. lucaspa

    Why is Slavery in the Bible?

    Are you sure you want to use this verse? In context, Paul is talking about slavery to the Mosaic law, not slavery to each other. Go back to 4:24-25: "Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar. For...