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It’s a fact that the First Council of Constantinople was convened as a local council. It did not include the input of the entire church, so as a matter of fact, it was just a local council by definition. The only possible thing that could have elevated it to the status of “Ecumenical Council”...

I meant to say that the rest of the Church that did not participate in Chalcedon accepted the Pope’s decision to approve the council’s addition to the Nicene Creed. But as to your question, of course the East accepted the Pope’s approval. Unless you know something different, from what I...

With logic, you can understand many things about God, but not everything. All I know for sure is that Jesus is fully God. He is not the son, separated from the Father and the Holy Spirit. God is not made up of three separate entities. God is one single being with three separate and distinct...

It was accepted in the sense it was acceptable to recite, and Chalcedon accepted his decision. As for the canons, I am an aware of the Catholic Church ever accepting any of the Chalcedon canons. In fact, I know for sure that the canon where Constantinople claimed to usurp Antioch’s position as...

It is a good because it raises questions about hypocrisy, and Jesus was very clear that he hated hypocrisy. Why is it acceptable for this local council to add to the Nicene Creed, but it is not acceptable for another local synod (Third Council of Toledo) to also make an addition to the creed...

Because I was responding to a post that listed other verses. I made the point that the other verses must be read in light of verses like the one I cited. That really sounds unreasonable to you? I never said the verse I cited explicitly describes the Holy Spirit proceeding from the Father, it...

I am not in disagreement with this. Even when Jesus sends the Holy Spirit, the procession starts from the Father. 1) Logic cannot be used to completely understand God's nature, but it is very useful. In fact, it's clear the doctrine of the Trinity was established, not solely by looking at...

The Council did have many representatives, but it still was, in fact, a local synod. Additional proof that it was merely a local synod was that none of its canons were accepted by the church. Furthermore, even with the Pope's approval of the synod's additions to the Nicene Creed, the Third...

Maybe I did express myself poorly. I’m happy to take the blame if it makes you feel better. Anyway, I don’t cite that single verse as if one should only look at that verse. I cited that verse to point out that the other verses cited must be read in light of the verse I cited. You can list as...

The fact is that the First Council of Constantinople was convened as a local synod. The only reason it is considered an ecumenical council is because the pope liked and approved the local synod’s addition to the Nicene creed. The pope’s approval is the only reason the addition was accepted. He...

So why it fine for the east to add, on their own initiative, to the Nicene Creed but when the west adds to the creed it’s so arrogant?

That is a non sequitur. Jesus breathes out the Holy Spirit when he chooses not constantly. My point is that the verse shows that the Son is involved in the procession of the Holy Spirit, and not that the procession begins with the Son, and not that the Spirit proceeds solely from the Son without...

If I understand you correctly, you seem to be stating the Catholic position. The Catholic position is that the procession of the Holy Spirit first begins with the Father, but then the Son becomes involved through his relationship with the Father. That’s why the Catholic position is that both...

If the East added to the creed at the First Council of Constantinople on their own initiative, then why are they so upset that the Latin Church did the same. It’s hypocritical. The East’s addition to the creed wouldn’t even be universal if the Pope hadn’t approved the addition. The addition...

I think you misunderstood me. I cited this verse to show the Holy Spirit proceeds from both the Father and the Son.

The filoque was added in the Latin Church to deal with the rise of new Arians in the west. BTW, the Pope does not encourage or require that eastern Catholics include the filioque clause. Therefore, even if the East -West schism ended the Eastern Orthodox churches would not be required to recite...

These verses The verses you cited may appear to say that the Holy Spirit proceeds exclusively from the father, but even if you are correct about those verses, you are willfully ignoring John 20:22 where it is explicitly written that the Holy Spirit proceeded from the son. Don’t misunderstand...

I would say that unlike the American Legal System, Ignorance is an excuse. However, I am not one hundred percent sure. It can be argued that the New Testament has confliction verses on the issue, but personally I think taken as a whole, the NT does seem to say that ignorance, as opposed to...

The fact is that the Eastern Catholics (now Eastern Orthodox) unilaterally made additions to the creed about the Holy Spirit also. The original Nicene Creed established at the First Council of Nicaea in 325 had only one line about the Holy Spirit at the end of the creed which was, “And the Holy...

Jesus said that those who love him follow his commandments. Logic dictates that a Christian who doesn’t follow Jesus’ commandments either hates Jesus or is indifferent to him, but definitely doesn’t love him. Do you really think a person who doesn’t love Christ is a Christian? A Christian, as...