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  1. Xeno.of.athens

    The real presence of the Lord, Jesus Christ, in holy communion.

    That is an interesting turn of phrase. But it isn't within the scope of this thread's topic, which is the real presence of the Lord, Jesus Christ, in holy communion.
  2. Xeno.of.athens

    The real presence of the Lord, Jesus Christ, in holy communion.

    Unconsecrated communion bread is called "the hosts" and unconsecrated communion wine is called "wine" or "communion wine". After consecration the wine is called "the precious blood" and the hosts are called "the body of Christ". Unused yet consecrated "hosts" are kept in the tabernacle and are...
  3. Xeno.of.athens

    The real presence of the Lord, Jesus Christ, in holy communion.

    No, I added the clarifications yesterday.
  4. Xeno.of.athens

    The real presence of the Lord, Jesus Christ, in holy communion.

    I mean that I added some clarifications to the OP and hope that the readership and contributors are doing well in comparison to the other thread.
  5. Xeno.of.athens

    The real presence of the Lord, Jesus Christ, in holy communion.

    Is this thread progressing satisfactorily?
  6. Xeno.of.athens

    Prayer works?

    If one reasons that God caused everything because he created everything and foresees everything thus implying that God is responsible for everything having both created it and foreseen how it would work out. This ought to be problematic for any theology that advocates it. It, without question...
  7. Xeno.of.athens

    Prayer works?

    Whoever says that God causes everything says by implication that God causes sin(s).
  8. Xeno.of.athens

    The real presence of the Lord, Jesus Christ, in holy communion.

    Indeed, it is manmade insofar as the Lord, Jesus Christ is a man, and he made the holy eucharist a sacrament of the church.
  9. Xeno.of.athens

    Prayer works?

    God directly caused Adam to live. God indirectly causes Adam's children to live. And God very indirectly causes children born today to live. So, there are degrees of causing. God is the first cause of everything, a distant first cause for things happening now, a closer first cause for things...
  10. Xeno.of.athens

    The real presence of the Lord, Jesus Christ, in holy communion.

    What matters most is what the Lord, Jesus Christ, said and taught. Opinions are not the matter in question in this thread. If opinions were the material for our discussion, then we would need a hundred threads to accommodate the hundred and more opinions that people express about this matter of...
  11. Xeno.of.athens

    The real presence of the Lord, Jesus Christ, in holy communion.

    Haydock, a Catholic commentator, writes concerning Matthew 26:26 these words: And whilst they were at supper. Jesus Christ proceeds to the institution of the blessed Eucharist, that the truth or reality may succeed to the figure in one and the same banquet; and to impress more deeply upon our...
  12. Xeno.of.athens

    The real presence of the Lord, Jesus Christ, in holy communion.

    Had the Lord intended to say, "this means my body" or perhaps "this represents my body" he had the words available to him in Aramaic and in Greek, but he chose, as God speaking to the world, to say "this is my body". The only bible translation that I know that substitutes "means" for "is" in...
  13. Xeno.of.athens

    The real presence of the Lord, Jesus Christ, in holy communion.

    I believe that all of the ancient churches (Catholic, Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, and some others) accept and teach the real presence of the Lord, Jesus Christ, in holy communion. Catholics believe and teach that the elements of bread & wine are changed during the Eucharistic Prayer. The...
  14. Xeno.of.athens

    Is the Eucharist cannibalism?

    https://www.vatican.va/content/john-paul-ii/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_jp-ii_enc_20030417_eccl-de-euch.html 15. The sacramental re-presentation of Christ's sacrifice, crowned by the resurrection, in the Mass involves a most special presence which – in the words of Paul VI – “is called 'real'...
  15. Xeno.of.athens

    Is the Eucharist cannibalism?

    I do not think your claim is true, but yet I want to end this fruitless discussion with you.
  16. Xeno.of.athens

    Is the Eucharist cannibalism?

    429 posts is more than sufficient to have your position expressed and mine too, @The Liturgist has expressed his view. Lutheran views too were expressed, so why prolong this?
  17. Xeno.of.athens

    Is the Eucharist cannibalism?

    I need look no further than my circle of friends from Protestant denominations who shunned me when I became a Catholic. That was an excellent example of intolerance. What you offer is folly.
  18. Xeno.of.athens

    Is the Eucharist cannibalism?

    You write that as if reliance on scripture alone is a virtue and reliance on both scripture and extrabiblical sacred tradition is an anti-virtue. Yet history demonstrates that those who say they rely on scripture alone and reject tradition as a source of divine revelation are prone to divisions...
  19. Xeno.of.athens

    Is the Eucharist cannibalism?

    1381 "That in this sacrament are the true Body of Christ and his true Blood is something that 'cannot be apprehended by the senses,' says St. Thomas, 'but only by faith, which relies on divine authority.' For this reason, in a commentary on Luke 22:19 ('This is my body which is given for you.')...