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    Mary Mother of Jesus, not of God.

    OK. I understand your reasoning. And plainly you are not ensnared by the idolatry of it. I suppose the mother of God after the flesh wouldn't be too much for me to choke down.;) But Mary was the mother of the son, not of the Son. The eternal God was never born of a woman.
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    NEW COVENANT BELIEVERS ARE ISRAEL

    I disagree with you on this. On what? That the apostles and disciples stayed standing in place to await His return, when He had just commanded them to go to jerusalem and wait for the Holy Ghost baptism with fire?? Why was Peter so astonished at the salvation and justification of the Roman...
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    Mary Mother of Jesus, not of God.

    Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas? The unbelievers were correct in speaking of the man Jesus, whose mother was called Mary. They rejected Him as the Christ to come. They were concerned only of his manhood in...
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    Mary Mother of Jesus, not of God.

    Like I said the term was implemented to combat the heresies of Nestorius, not to venerate Mary above her intended status. Like I said, that is exactly the result of it. To deny that, is to deny the Roman Catholic Church since it's founding as the new state religion of Rome. And that Roman...
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    Mary Mother of Jesus, not of God.

    She didn’t give birth to an empty body that Jesus then entered into. True. Neither does Scripture says so, nor did I. The Word entered in the body prepared for Him in the womb at the same time of the preparing. When Mary was conceived of a body of flesh in her womb by the Holy Spirit, is the...
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    NEW COVENANT BELIEVERS ARE ISRAEL

    Well the apostles and elders of the Church certainly did not understand that command that way. How many years before Cornelius. Quite a surprise to them. Neither did they understand that the Lord was not immediately returning after His ascension, so He had angels come and tell them to do what...
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    Mary Mother of Jesus, not of God.

    it also follows that Mary is the mother of God. Carnal minds can think so, because it certainly seems rational in a human way. But Scripture doesn't say so, and it has absolutely nothing to do with being born again, living for God, and attaining to the resurrection of the dead. And we both...
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    Mary Mother of Jesus, not of God.

    He was actually doing pretty on describing God living as a man of flesh and blood on earth, which I can comment on if you like, but I suppose this is what you are asking about: This was the sentiment of the holy Fathers; therefore they ventured to call the holy Virgin, the Mother of God, not as...
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    Mary Mother of Jesus, not of God.

    Good. We agree. Mary was the mother of a child of flesh, not the Mother of the Second Person of the Holy Trinity. Whom neither she nor His brethren after the flesh believed in until after the resurrection: And the multitude sat about him, and they said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy...
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    Mary Mother of Jesus, not of God.

    No problem. I thought I was giving you due credit. My mistake. It's what I say. Not you.
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    Mary Mother of Jesus, not of God.

    That sounds a lot like what gets a woman called a "mother," wouldn't you say? You have that right now. Natural mother to natural body. As another pointed out, the truth is that woman gives birth to no soul nor person, but only God makes souls in His image, and clothes each soul in skin of...
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    Mary Mother of Jesus, not of God.

    The simple fact is that Mariology was first mixed into the Christianity as official teaching after Christianity was allowed into the state religion. It did not become official Papal dogma until Christianity was then made the state religion of Rome. Doctrinally, them who believed the idolatry...
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    Mary Mother of Jesus, not of God.

    And thank you very much. I was holding off for someone like you to teach the truth that no soul is ever born of a woman. No Scripture ever speaks of souls being born at all. Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine. For thou hast possessed my...
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    Mary Mother of Jesus, not of God.

    She bore the body prepared for God the Word, and gave birth to that body of the Son of God. She gave natural birth to a natural body of her own flesh. "all generations shall call me blessed" So was Mary the sister of Lazarus, whose act of anointing Jesus' hair would be heard wherever the...
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    Mary Mother of Jesus, not of God.

    A mother gives birth to a person. My mother gave birth to me as a sinner, and now that old man is dead. I now am born of God by His Spirit, a new creature in Christ Jesus. My mother I honor still, is only mother of my body after the flesh. There is no mother of Christ, even as there is no...
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    Mary Mother of Jesus, not of God.

    Hard to believe that someone wants to fight this battle again. What is being offered is the Scriptural proof that God has no mother. Mary was mother to Jesus after the flesh only. She gave natural birth to Christ only. A body of her flesh was prepared for Christ by the Holy Spirit, and He...
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    Mary Mother of Jesus, not of God.

    Was it not YHWH, Jesus throughout the NT being referred to as the YHWH of the prophecies? Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more. The eternal Word Yehova was made flesh and dwelt among men...
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    Mary Mother of Jesus, not of God.

    The "problem" with that overview is that the Son of God did not simply put on flesh like a masquerade costume. This is a mockery of Jesus Christ come in the flesh, which was seriously taught by Arian. He was only Christ in a temporary body, but not truly human, which was much like the pagan...
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    Mary Mother of Jesus, not of God.

    Everybody hasn't.