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    Why Was Jesus Baptized?

    To fulfill all righteousness. At first, John the baptist balked from baptizing Jesus. NKJV Mat 3:15 But Jesus answered and said to him, “Permit it to be so now, for thus it is fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness.” Then he allowed Him.
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    Can Traditional Denominations explain this?

    Mat 27:38 Then were there two thieves crucified with him, one on the right hand, and another on the left. Mat 27:44 The thieves also, which were crucified with him, cast the same in his teeth. Mar 15:32 Let Christ the King of Israel descend now from the cross, that we may see and believe...
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    Can Traditional Denominations explain this?

    malefactor - thief - same-same
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    Christian Universalism. What's not to like?

    guess that trumps Ecclesiastes saying earth abides for ever
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    Christian Universalism. What's not to like?

    Eternity? said Frankie Lee with a voice as cold as ice That's right says Judas, Eternity - though you might call it Paradise I dont call it anything says Frankie Lee with a smile Alright says Judas Priest I'll see you after while
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    Christian Universalism. What's not to like?

    Is the Earth Eternal? – Megiddo Church. Question: How do you harmonize Gen. 8:22, “While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease” (implying that the earth is eternal) with 2 Pet. 3:10, “The earth also and the works...
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    Christian Universalism. What's not to like?

    Much of what is said of Origen is now seen of dubious report. In Religion class back in college - it was said without dispute that Origen castrated himself. This is now disputed - as is saying that satan might be restored... ON FIRST PRINCIPLES - I like - whatever "pseudo-Origen" came along 200...
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    Do Cessationists believe in modern miracles?

    When that which is perfect has come, Cessationists will have CEASED !!!
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    Christian Universalism. What's not to like?

    Concerning Origen, I had always heard that he was anathematized because of beliefs that Satan and demons might some day be restored, forgiven... I have never heard about a "splinter group" writing in Origen's name. To me, maybe Origen was condemned by a church already corrupt - I never gave...
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    Christian Universalism. What's not to like?

    Mat 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: Well the Bible says the hell-fire is "prepared for" - and many take that to mean created for.
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    Christian Universalism. What's not to like?

    I don't like "the Human One" as a replacement for Son of Man. I got the Wesley Study Bible with the Common English Bible translation, and that phrase is the only thing I don't like about it. "Son of Man" is how Jesus referred to Himself - the Human One seems an attempt to be gender non-specific...
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    Christian Universalism. What's not to like?

    Steve - I DON'T BELIEVE the verses that say the dead know nothing - I believe WHAT JESUS SAID in Luke 16 - Jesus trumps writer of Ecclesiastes and other verses that the SDA Soul Sleepers jump up and down on. If you want to hold Ecclesiastes higher then what Jesus says - join the Soul Sleepers of...
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    Christian Universalism. What's not to like?

    Yes - we still have the times of sunrise and sunset in the newspaper - but we know that is not literal,
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    Christian Universalism. What's not to like?

    Jos 10:12 Then spake Joshua to the LORD in the day when the LORD delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon. Jos 10:13 And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed...
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    Christian Universalism. What's not to like?

    The verses that say "the dead know nothing" are counter-manded by Samuel talking to King Saul - even prophesying his death - and beggar lazarus, rich man and Abraham conscious - living and knowing things in Luke 16. Paul contrasts being alive on earth with "being present with the Lord". Many...
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    Christian Universalism. What's not to like?

    I'll watch out for that Hellfire. Also, not all earthquakes in the Bible are really earthquakes. In Revelation, it says there was an earthquake IN HEAVEN (the Greek word SEISMOS literally means a great shaking)
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    Christian Universalism. What's not to like?

    Hell of a lot of details on Gehenna. Thanks, DA.
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    Christian Universalism. What's not to like?

    Afterlife events and destinies are classified according to professional Los Angeles sports teams. LAKERS believe in a literal Lake of Fire as destination for unbelievers. CLIPPERS believe that when the cord of life mentioned in Ecclesiastes is clipped - you just die when you die. DODGERS seek...
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    Christian Universalism. What's not to like?

    Avatar has been changed to Merlin - he is half great pyrenee & half German shepherd I still can't get these pics right - he is not really a small dog
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    Christian Universalism. What's not to like?

    Point I am making, hedrick - is that it seems too close to call, at times. Certain judgements do indicate a time of ending, or release. Worm dieth not - fire not quenched is ambiguous if looking at "dead bodies cannot hurt" - but I don't really know how to take it gehenna upon gehenna - it all...