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in reply to ImCo: The unforgivable sin was the Satanic fall, their free will decision to reject by faith, ie, an unproven hope, YHWH's claims to be our creator GOD and to reject the gospel of salvation from sin as found only in the Son. It contained the ideas that HE was no better than the...

I post this as an expression of my faith, what I believe about our pre-conception existence (PCE), not as proof I am right. PCE does solve some of the blasphemies the orthodox churches must embrace to keep their 'created on earth' based theologies working but that is not proof of its...

Preamble: My faith involves the Theology of our pre-conception, pre-earth, existence or PCE. It involves the creation of all beings in GOD's image well before the creation of the physical universe. I will write about it as a finished faith, and as the truth but I will preface it as my Christian...

I'm using Paul's post here as a springboard to get up on my one trick pony, PCE theology and the pov of sinfulness in the garden: IF Adam and Eve were sinners, then we'd have no reason to accept their free will but only their enslavement to sin: John 8:34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I...

This question forces me to conclude that no one who had experienced or was living/basking in the GLORY of GOD could/would ever rebel against HIM...forcing the first step in the fall to being a rebellion against HIS CLAIMS to be our Creator GOD and our only Saviour from sin. Not until we all saw...

Thus speaketh orthodoxy but I disagree: Pre-Conception Existence theology (PCE) is solidly Bible based (though highly unpopular) and is a far more logical understanding of GOD's Divine attributes working in HIS creation than all the other created on earth biased opinions which lead to...

Calvinism is not the only theology that sees some sinners as condemned before conception. The theology of our Pre-Conception Existence (PCE) contends that all persons created in HIS image were created before the creation of the physical universe* with a free will and an equal ability and...

Would it not be metaphysically acceptable if we all chose by our free will our own fates in HIM either as our GOD and Saviour OR as a liar and therefor a false god...? The only thing wonky about predestination is the Calvinist assertion that election had to be without merit or condition found...

PCE theology contends that - everyone created in HIS image were all created innocent before the creation of the physical universe or the foundation of the world with a free will and - we stayed innocent until we chose by a free will decision to rebuke YHWH as a liar and a fase god (the...

Nope; they are both sinless and sinful before redemption at different times. I believe that sin can only be adjudicated for the free will decision to sin, NOT by putting anyone into Adam's sin. That's not hard to grasp, eh? I don't say infants are not sinners like some; I say they do not get...

I assume that the words heavenly host refer to angels, but since the actual words in Job 38:7 referring to the people singing HIS praise for this display of HIS eternal power and Divinity are kal bene `elohim, ie, all the sons of GOD, and does not actually reference angels (a job description...

In short, the sinful elect (ie good) seed are here to become holy so that the weeds may be gathered and burnt without any danger to the good but sinful seed. Matt 13:27 The owner’s servants came to him and said, ‘Sir, didn’t you sow good seed in your field? Where then did the weeds come from?’...

From the topic: Not Redeemable??? Discussion in 'Requests for Christian Advice' started by SpeckOdust, Feb 27, 2017. I suggest that GOD created everyone in HIS image with a free will and and equal ability and opportunity to accept, by faith, (an unproven hope), HIS claims and proposal of...

IF we have no free will we are not guilty of the evil choices we make yet scripture asserts we are guilty over and over and over... IF we have no free will then GOD created us to do evil and is the source of our evil yet HE claims to be loving and holy... thus my evidence for the necessity of...

I was asked: "Where is your verse that states the opposite of UE?" My answer: Every verse that states or implies our GOD is loving, righteous and just. 1 Timothy 5:21 I charge thee before GOD and the Lord Jesus Christ, and the ELECT angels. Since there are elect angels we can assume that the...

I was raised Christian but apostated early in life until the mid-70s. My apostasy was over certain theological issues I did not find to be properly reconciled. My full conversion with a spiritual death and rebirth (at least it felt that way) was in 1980. I spent years on systematic theology...