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I started this thread because this issue is the last wrinkle in my newly adopted Arminian term. For many years I have called myself a Pauline believer which tends to send out a vibe that I claim theological superiority by virtue of claiming Pauls's gospel as my own theology. I discovered that I...

The true evidence is the circumcision made without hands, a changed heart. His Spirit witnessing to our spirit that we are the children of God. If a person doesn't experience that change then something is wrong. Romans 8:16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the...

Much as I love your beautiful verse I don't believe in one verse theology unless one verse is all we have on an issue. Romans 8 is my response, it is an entire chapter that explains why we must endure. You have to endure in order to walk after the Spirit. 1 There is therefore now no...

Every parable of Christ is a different lesson. They are not meant to be mixed together, that is error.

That's a great story and I sincerely thank you for telling it. John 5:24 is a fine verse, it's beautiful. But a John 5:24 could never become a sally 2. I know because I live it. I`ve been sick for 10 years and crippled these last 3 of the 10. I`ve yet to entertain any sally 2 thoughts because...

Fair enough, please explain why sally 2 makes it. You just made your story interesting to me.

Some truth in that I believe. When you say "human action." I think of people who add a works component to their salvation. I deliberately excluded that in the OP because I flatly reject works as a component of salvation. I believe a person is saved when God imparts the Holy Spirit into them. At...

I'm not convinced your Sally part 2 is realistic. Most people turn toward God in times of duress not away. In times of trouble, there is nowhere else to go. 1 John says this, 1 John 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is...

Yes, you might wander off the path at times but you never stop being a child of God. But my question is about those who don't make it. The scripture evidence looks to me that it confirms a real salvation experience that doesn't survive. I've argued against that more than a couple of times but...

He never claimed to be the entirety of God but He did say He came forth from within God.

I don't want to go off topic at this time but I appreciate your contributions to this thread.

Throughout old testament prophecy, the Messiah is predicted to be God Himself and I believe the first three gospels address a purely Jewish group who understood that truth just as the 12 did after His resurrection. I believe the gospel of John was written with a mixed group of Jews and ignorant...

In the case of Matthew 24, I consider it to mean both. Not uncommon for scriptures to have more than one meaning. If we go through the tribulation most likely we will die before the tribulation is over. I doubt that you think believers who perish before the end of the age become lost. So while...

The reality is, that all the scriptures that pertain to the security of the believer require that we endure as believers to the end of our life. The scripture indicates some leeway for the feebleminded so grandma will still be fine and safe in the arms of Jesus. 1 Thessalonians 5:14 Now we...

Something I find disturbing (since the mark of the beast has been brought up) is this new tattooing technology that is quickly advancing. The tech exists right now to put an invisible tattoo on you that will contain your medical info, and personal info, and serve as your debit/credit card. I...

Oh, and just as an FYI, "enduring" is the technical term for my topic so far as the gospel is concerned. I tried to find it but the acronym T.U.L.I.P. isn't in the translation I read from.

He's trying to say our salvation is one salvation and our salvation at the first resurrection is another. It`s not a defensible way to understand it because of the inaccuracy.

You don't know what my full position is although to claim there are two salvations is unbiblical. 'There is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved. These are words of Peter addressed to the Jewish leaders as recorded in Acts...

Or more likely you are unhappy because I didn't offer you Calvins a spot in my discussion thread. Telling me not to discuss salvation because it's already been talked about too much isn't an attempt to help. It`s trolling which is against the rules.

You did manage to find my term but this is not my topic. Stop trolling me and disrupting my thread.