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    At What Point Do You Think You Are Truly Saved?

    This is controversial topic, largely due to the complexity of salvation. But in the simplest form is not complicated at all. Some believe being saved is a reference to our spiritual birth or being born again. Then some believe being saved is a reference to achieving salvation. Some believe...
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    "except" for fornication - a Matthew 19:9 revisit

    I know there has been a lot of discussion on this, but let me add a little dialog. When the Pharisees came to Jesus with this question, we know from the text they were trying to tempt him. In my opinion, they were trying to put division between what Moses allowed for the people regarding...
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    20 major reasons to reject the Premillennial doctrine

    OK, we probably cannot get free from this topic. Let's move on to one that is related. Here are 2 separate passages; one where there is the battle where the beast and false profit being destroyed and cast into the lake of fire. The other where Satan is destroyed and cast into the lake of fire...
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    20 major reasons to reject the Premillennial doctrine

    The text does not tell us in Rev 20:4 when the 42 month period starts. Remember, this was a king or Leader. He was alive and in power before going into perdition. He killed the saints and then the 42 months started his timeline when he went in perdition. We can read the next few chapters what...
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    20 major reasons to reject the Premillennial doctrine

    Are you actually trying to say that because Satan was set free for a little season in Rev 20:3, that in verse Rev 20:4, we have a whole new 1000 year period when the saints reign with Christ for another 1000 years? It seems like this is what you are implying. Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and...
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    20 major reasons to reject the Premillennial doctrine

    The souls of Rev 6:10 were seen before Satan was released from the pit. These were opened in the 5th seal. So the little season here was the period the souls that John saw under the alter that were commanded to rested. They started their rested well before the 42 months of the beast. However...
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    20 major reasons to reject the Premillennial doctrine

    I do not believe the little season in Rev 6:11 is the same little season as Rev 12:12 or Rev 20:3. I think we agree that the souls that John saw under the alter (Rev 6:9-11) are prophets and holy men living under the Mosaic Law who were killed. And when white robes were given them, signifying...
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    20 major reasons to reject the Premillennial doctrine

    I only know of one little season (Rev 20:4). The chapter in Rev 12 covers a long span of time over 2000 years The chapter in Rev 20 also covers a long span of time, 2000 years Each chapter covers different facets of prophecy and events that occur. So its hard to use those two chapters and...
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    20 major reasons to reject the Premillennial doctrine

    That's wonderful we have a connection here too! I do not believe the souls seen in Rev 6:11 are associated with the ones seen in Rev 20:4. I believe the souls seen in Rev 6:11 are the souls of the prophets and holy men that were killed before the time of Christ. I believe John saw them being...
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    Abomination that maketh Desolate

    I think this is another good example of figurative language of revelation. The 1260 days is a reference to the saints. In the case of the Woman in Rev 12, she is being fed or nourished. The feeding is that of the gospel of salvation. Both times the Woman was fed in Rev 12, are times she was...
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    Abomination that maketh Desolate

    I would like to offer some food for thought. For 20 years of my Christian life, I believed the 2 witnesses to be 2 men of the bible. But as I began to tie in more references to the bible that mention the two witnesses, I was led to believe that this was more figurative language, as we read...
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    Abomination that maketh Desolate

    I believe the tail of the beast is a reference to the power that was given to the early beast in the times of Daniel such as King of Babylon, that killed all the prophets and holy men. This continued up to and including John the Baptist being killed by the 5th head (Rome King Herod and Caesar)...
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    Abomination that maketh Desolate

    According to (Rev 20:1-3), it says that Satan was bound by a great chain for 1000 years. I do not believe that Satan was physically put in a hole and sealed up. I believe this is figurative language stating that he has no power. As I stated, I believe that Christ took that power from him when...
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    Abomination that maketh Desolate

    You and I agree. I do believe the dragon of Rev 12 gave power to the beast of Rev 13:1. Because I am amil, You and I will probably differ on this point, but I believe the dragon (Satan) was not in the pit in the first part of Rev 12. I believe he was cast into the pit when he was cast out of...
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    Abomination that maketh Desolate

    The dragon (Satan or the devil) is also associated with 7 heads, 10 horns, and 7 crowns. Revelation 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. The false prophet is the 2nd beast of Rev...
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    Abomination that maketh Desolate

    Some get caught up in details, whether it arose out of the land or out of the sea. I believe this is less relevant than the fact; all (3); the Dragon, Beast, and False Prophet are all "as one" or agreeing as one (mimicking the holy trinity). They all share the same 7 heads, and these heads are...
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    Abomination that maketh Desolate

    In Revelation, I can only identify 3 evil characters, which seem to align with Daniel: 1) The Dragon (Satan or the devil) 2) The 1st Beast (7 heads) 3) The 2nd Beast (False Profit) What is interesting to me are "the mouths". We read when the (3) spirits like frogs came out of their mouths...
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    20 major reasons to reject the Premillennial doctrine

    I would like to interject regarding this topic. Let's look a little closer at this. A little about me; my beliefs are closer to Amil than any other end time beliefs, but I do propose that the 42 month reign of the beast (Rev 13:5) does occur after Satan is loosed from the pit and after the...