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    Isaiah 65:17-19 relates to the eternal state not some supposed future millennium

    Isaiah 65:17-19 says, “For, behold, I create [Heb. bârâ'] new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind. But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create: for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy. And I will rejoice...
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    Revelation 12:5-11 proves the Amil paradigm

    Revelation 12:5-11 teaches: “And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne. And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two...
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    Preterism misrepresents Scripture

    There are so many contradictions and butchering of the sacred text in Preterism that it is hard to know where to start when refuting it. The most troubling aspect (of course) is their dangerous, obsessive and unbiblical fixation with the coming of Titus and AD70, instead of Christ's person and...
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    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    It is particularly challenging at the best of times trying to comprehend the various vicissitudes of the early Church teachings. Most of that is because we try to examine their theology through the lens of our modern theological norms. What adds to the complexity and perplexity is the fact that...
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    Amil or Pretrib - which is biblical?

    As an Amil I strongly disagree with this. The biggest problems I see within Christian circles today is: · Many have no understanding of the consistent teaching of the Bible. They are not real students of the Word of God. They just believe what they have been taught. · Many have no...
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    Premillennialism ignores the tenses in the original Greek in order to sustain its teaching

    Premillennialism ignores the tenses in the original Greek in order to sustain its teaching. That is because the tenses expose Premil. Jesus is reigning now For example, Scripture shows that Jesus is reigning now over creation, His people and all His enemies. It demonstrates this to be in the...
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    The fate of Satan, the beast and his demons mirror each other

    I posted a similar post in a recent thread. But it got lost in the weeds. I think there is some important and compelling evidence that we should consider. Revelation is just like every other book in the Bible: it describes two kingdoms that are in constant spiritual conflict with each other...
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    Contrary to what Premil teaches: Revelation 20 does not locate Jesus on earth!

    For years, it has been the Premil mantra that Jesus will be ruling in majesty and glory for 1000 years on planet earth after the second coming. This is repeatedly advanced as a core fundamental of that theory. But when you dig a little bit deeper and press Premils, it is clear that this theory...
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    Understanding "the beginning" and "the end"

    Intro The unindoctrinated Bible student should have no difficulty in understanding the meaning and weightiness of the phrases/events “the beginning” and “the end.” That is because they mean what they say. These expressions are often used on their own throughout Scripture because the Holy Spirit...
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    Surely Premils must invent 2 future glorifications days separated by 1000 years+?

    Premil teaches that there will be righteous converts still in their fallen mortal bodies during their millennium who are distinguished from the immortals. They also argue many of these will be converted in their so-called future millennium. Surely Premils are going to have to create another...
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    A big difference between ancient Chiliasm and modern-day Premillennialism

    Premillennialists are very vocal and passionate in emphasizing their early Patristic roots. They confidently claim the early Chiliasts as their own. They employ this connection as strong support to verify the current authenticity and ancient heritage of their cherished doctrine. But is this...
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    For the open-minded objective Bible student

    During the 1990s-, I wrote 3 books on Irish secret societies and was planning next to put a book together in support Premillennialism. After 6 months, I ended up abandoning my Premillennialism because every passage I objectively and openly looked at was final and climactic. 2 Peter 3 was the...
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    Is the Day of the Lord exactly 1000 years as Premils claim?

    (1) Anyone who contends that 2 Peter 3 supports the Premillennial theory that the day of the Lord lasts a literal 1,000 years after the second coming must surely see the absolute absurdity of their notion in the light of the destructive nature of the passage. This vivid account of complete...
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    God's people (ekklesia) are one from the beginning

    The Hebrew words that are used in the Old Testament to describe the overall company of the children of Israel are qâhâl and ‛êdâh. These words are usually translated, and mean, “congregation” or “assembly.” But, the Old Testament was not just written in Hebrew; it was also written in Greek...
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    Devotional Eschatology

    I think there is a tendency of many of us to get so entangled in the theological issues that we forget the more important aspect: the application of scriptural truth. I feel led to share a devotional message that I preached a few weeks ago in our Church regarding the second coming. I hope it is...
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    What it means to be "quickened" in salvation

    It seems like some Premils have been trying to explain away spiritual resurrection upon salvation for the sole purpose that it exposes their interpretation, location and timing of Revelation 20. This has been easily, ably and repeatedly refuted by Amils on this board. The fact is: multiple NT...
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    20 major reasons to reject the Premillennial doctrine

    Since abandoning Premil I have engaged in many debates/discussions on the matter of the second coming, end-times and the here-after. These are some of the major weaknesses I find in the Premil doctrine, and are strong reasons why I believe the dogma should be rejected. (1) Premil is totally...
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    A basic flaw in Partial Preterist interpretation

    This thread is not for those who espouse Full Preterist views denying a literal future physical second coming of Christ and denying a literal physical future resurrection of the elect when He comes. Intro One of the most important hermeneutical principles is interpreting Scripture with...
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    The replacement of the heavens and earth occur at the second coming, not AD70

    Matthew 24 (and its parallel accounts Mark 13 and Luke 21) has confused many Christians over the years, and led to much debate. Bible students have rightly wondered: 'what is it speaking about?' and 'when was or will it be fulfilled?' They want to know: 'is Jesus speaking of one event, or is He...
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    Why Christians should reject Partial Preterism

    First of all, I am a Postrib Amillennialist. I am also an Idealist – meaning I believe Revelation consist of 7 recaps culminating in a climactic return of Christ. Like Partial Preterists and Historicists, and other Idealists, I believe Daniel 9 has been fulfilled in and through the earthly...