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  1. Eddie Ramos

    Christ did not pay for sins at the cross, but at the world's foundation.

    I responded to this earlier, perhaps to someone else. But this actually creates a problem for those who hold to atonement taking place at the cross because Christ was alive when he said "it is finished", THEN he died. Moreover, the salvation plan of God not only included atonement for sins but...
  2. Eddie Ramos

    Christ did not pay for sins at the cross, but at the world's foundation.

    I don't care for any man made creed, only about what the Bible alone teaches. No creed is inspired by God, only the Bible is, therefore it is my only authority. And the ESV is only accurate because it agrees with what you believe not because it is actually a faithful translation. If we are...
  3. Eddie Ramos

    Christ did not pay for sins at the cross, but at the world's foundation.

    Thanks for your reply but other than saying "Incorrect" and "There is no contradiction", you have not given any evidence which supports your claims that can be taken to the Bible and compared for truth. Not that you have to, it would've been nice though. Your last comment can certainly be...
  4. Eddie Ramos

    Christ did not pay for sins at the cross, but at the world's foundation.

    There is no passage that states that there was only a plan set from the foundation of the world, but there are passages that state that Christ was indeed slain from the foundation of the world and not in principle but in deed. He finished all the works necessary in order for his elect to enter...
  5. Eddie Ramos

    Christ did not pay for sins at the cross, but at the world's foundation.

    According to the Bible, God has taken it upon himself to preserve His Word pure from the corruption of mankind. Psalm 12:6 The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. 7 Thou shalt keep them, O Lord, thou shalt preserve them from this...
  6. Eddie Ramos

    Christ did not pay for sins at the cross, but at the world's foundation.

    I almost feel as though you're not reading any of my replies, but you're not obligated to do so, it will though answer your questions if you chose to do so. Christ's earthly ministry was all a parable which hid truth. Yes, it all really happened, but it did so to paint a deeper spiritual...
  7. Eddie Ramos

    Christ did not pay for sins at the cross, but at the world's foundation.

    I will click and paste here a portion of a comment I made to someone else here in regards to what I mean by the word "harmony". "There are indeed many passages in the Bible which can give the impression that Christ's death on the cross made payment for sins, but again, truth is found when we...
  8. Eddie Ramos

    Christ did not pay for sins at the cross, but at the world's foundation.

    There are indeed many passages in the Bible which can give the impression that Christ's death on the cross made payment for sins, but again, truth is found when we can take any doctrine we hold to be true and examined against the whole Bible for harmony. Harmony is agreement, it is how the...
  9. Eddie Ramos

    Christ did not pay for sins at the cross, but at the world's foundation.

    Not sure what you mean. I'm new here, but as far as I can tell, when I hit the button "reply" it automatically quotes your entire post and so I responded to it. I went back to check and it appears that I in fact did quote the entire post. Not sure how it shows up on your end. Also I answered...
  10. Eddie Ramos

    Which "Christians" will not be saved?

    Hello Mr. hedrick. Most self professed Christians aren't unsaved because of any doctrinal errors they make. They (along with anyone else who is unsaved) are unsaved because of their sins. I guess what I was trying to say was that what they believe to be a path to salvation is based on...
  11. Eddie Ramos

    Christ did not pay for sins at the cross, but at the world's foundation.

    Yes, Jesus IS the Son of God, but your next statement presents a problem if you believe that he died and rose to make payment for sins at the cross. This is the importance of seeking for harmony. Your next statement was "and has always been the Son of God". But according to Romans 1:4 he was...
  12. Eddie Ramos

    Christ did not pay for sins at the cross, but at the world's foundation.

    No, I don't misembolden the Word of God in any way, I seek for harmony which leads to truth. There is a big difference between the two. When Christ spoke things new to the ears of Israel, they too stopped their ears and refused to hear, this of course was also part of God's plan for them...
  13. Eddie Ramos

    Which "Christians" will not be saved?

    This is a question that has widely been ignored for the most part because most self proclaimed Christians give no thought to their salvation. In other words, once they "ABC" (accept, believe and confess), they believe that this has secured salvation for them, when it has not. There is not a...
  14. Eddie Ramos

    Christ did not pay for sins at the cross, but at the world's foundation.

    In this time near the end of the world, Christ has opened up end time information from the scriptures that He had kept sealed up (according to Daniel 12:8-10) until the time of the end. One of those things was the fact that we had not truly understood the nature of the atonement by comparing it...