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    Is Final Salvation Free or Contingent upon Obeying Commandments?

    OSAS also clearly refuted at Romans 11. The wild olive shoot are gentile Christians who were grafted into Christ (the root). The natural branches are Jews. The text clearly teaches that the gentile Christians who were grafted into Christ can be "cut off" from Christ if they subsequently fall...
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    Is Final Salvation Free or Contingent upon Obeying Commandments?

    Friend, go back and read my post #730. The Scripture verse that I recited, and the Scripture verse that you quoted in your response, was from Hebrews 10, not Hebrews 6. Did you even read the verse? I'm off for tonight. Good evening.
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    Is Final Salvation Free or Contingent upon Obeying Commandments?

    No, it does not refer to "nominal Christians". How many "nominal Christians" do you know that were sanctified by the blood of the covenant? Is our Lord's blood now not sufficient to save? That is a rather shameful thing to assert, no offense.
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    Is Final Salvation Free or Contingent upon Obeying Commandments?

    I didn't quote 1 Cor 6:9-11. Besides, the fact that a person is washed does not mean that he is incapable of becoming dirty again. You have taken a shower. Surely you must realize this. And that is precisely why St. Paul, immediately following the text you quoted, goes on the warn those same...
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    Is Final Salvation Free or Contingent upon Obeying Commandments?

    No, Sacred Scripture teaches that a person who has been saved is capable of sinning deliberately. 26 For if we go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, 27 but a fearful expectation of judgment, and a fury of fire that...
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    Is Final Salvation Free or Contingent upon Obeying Commandments?

    Regardless, you have done nothing to prove your assertion that a born again Christian is incapable of committing the sins that St. Paul speaks of in Galatians.
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    Is Final Salvation Free or Contingent upon Obeying Commandments?

    You believe that you are born of God, why do you go on sinning? Are you honestly trying to sit here and tell me that you never sin? FYI, if you call me an unbeliever again, I will need to report you. Please refrain.
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    Is Final Salvation Free or Contingent upon Obeying Commandments?

    Obviously 1 John 3:9 does not mean that a Christian will never sin again. That is why I asked you the question - because you consider yourself born again but you obviously still sin. So you have done nothing to prove your assertion that a person who is born of God is incapable of committing the...
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    Is Final Salvation Free or Contingent upon Obeying Commandments?

    You do not sin? I can't take you seriously anymore. Have a nice day.
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    Is Final Salvation Free or Contingent upon Obeying Commandments?

    I am repeating the same verse because you have no answer for it. And there are plenty of other verses that indicate that a Christian can fall from grace. Do not be deceived.
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    Is Final Salvation Free or Contingent upon Obeying Commandments?

    You believe that you are born of God. Why do you continue to sin?
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    Is Final Salvation Free or Contingent upon Obeying Commandments?

    Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will...
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    Is Final Salvation Free or Contingent upon Obeying Commandments?

    Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will...
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    Is Final Salvation Free or Contingent upon Obeying Commandments?

    Nonsense. Enough with the characterizations. This is precisely what Trent states: Nor must this be omitted, that although in the sacred writings so much is attributed to good works, that even he that shall give a drink of cold water to one of his least ones, Christ promises, shall not lose his...
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    Is Final Salvation Free or Contingent upon Obeying Commandments?

    Well I don't have too much issue with the way that you look at these chapters. The difference in how we view the texts is that you view justification as a one-time event that ends at the moment a person is justified, but I view it as a process that continues over the person's entire life. What...
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    Is Final Salvation Free or Contingent upon Obeying Commandments?

    It is also fairly amusing to me that Calvinists often refer to Orange, when it explicitly rejects several tenants of their theology.
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    Is Final Salvation Free or Contingent upon Obeying Commandments?

    Yeah I understand the logical flow that Protestants see in Paul's argument from Chapter 2, through Chapter 3-5. Of course, none of us are good, and none of us can work our way to heaven or otherwise be justified apart from God's grace, which Paul lays out in these chapters. But then in Chapter 6...
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    Is Final Salvation Free or Contingent upon Obeying Commandments?

    No, "in Him" does not mean "imputed". That is how your tradition interprets the text, but the text simply does not state anything about imputation. As for the "implicit" passages, we can debate those as well, but I'm glad you agree that there is no verse in the Bible that clearly teaches that...
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    Is Final Salvation Free or Contingent upon Obeying Commandments?

    Yes he does, right there in Romans 2 (the chapter of Romans that Protestants love to skip over or relegate to a "hypothetical discussion"). 6 He will render to each one according to his works: 7 to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give...