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  1. J

    Bible casts doubt on dating of Artaxerxes decree

    For you to have arrived at 457 BC being a jubilee year, you must have made a calculation of the number of years between the 4th year of Solomon's reign and the year that Nebuchadnezzar's army destroyed Jerusalem. So, how many years do you calculate this period lasted, and what scripture have...
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    Bible casts doubt on dating of Artaxerxes decree

    Having said what I said in post 30, I wish to confirm that I don't think the destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70 actually forms part of the first 69 weeks, or the 70th week of the prophecy: I think it falls in the gap between the first 69 weeks and the 70th week.
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    Bible casts doubt on dating of Artaxerxes decree

    Daniel 9.25 covers the first 69 weeks and verse 27 covers the 70th week. Since verse 26 comes between those two verses, I think it's reasonable to conclude that the events described in verse 26 occurred between the end of the 69th week and the beginning of the 70th week. I think the phrase...
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    Rev 11- 1st 3.5 years of Final 7 not a time of peace, after all?

    Daniel 9:24 tells us that Daniel's 70 Weeks will put an end to sin, finish the transgression, and anoint a most holy place/one. Surely the harlot of Babylon's rule and the Beast's hour of authority will be a massively sinful period, which suggests that it will form part of Daniel's 70th Week...
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    Bible casts doubt on dating of Artaxerxes decree

    OK, so I think the 69 Weeks, which either lasted 476 actual years or 483 actual years, only form part of the 3965 years- other steps include the Genealogies of Genesis 5 and 11 which take us from Adam to Terah's birth, the 205 years of Genesis 11:32, the 430 years of Exodus 12:40-41, the 480...
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    Bible casts doubt on dating of Artaxerxes decree

    A couple of points: 1- Daniel 9:26 tells us of the city and the sanctuary's destruction- when do you think that occurred? 2- In the middle of those few verses on the Devil's armies gathering at Armageddon, Revelation 16:15 says 'See, I am coming like a thief'. I think that relates to 1...
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    Rev 11- 1st 3.5 years of Final 7 not a time of peace, after all?

    I agree I don't think the Bible enables us to work out the day that Jesus will return. However, I think it enables us to work out that He will not return after Day 2520, as the following train of deduction shows. I think it's reasonable to conclude that the Battle of Armageddon will occur on...
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    Rev 11- 1st 3.5 years of Final 7 not a time of peace, after all?

    Messed up last reply, so having another go. Hi GD I agree that 3.5 is relevant to the 7 years covering Jesus' return, the Battle of Armageddon and the beginning of the Millennium, but am not aware that the Bible combined with world historical records enables us to work out either the year in...
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    Bible casts doubt on dating of Artaxerxes decree

    Thank you. I still think the 69 Weeks began with Cyrus' decree, but I accept that your start and end-points are also possible. However, I disagree with your placement of the 70th Week and the length of those 69 Weeks: I think that the destruction of the city and sanctuary mentioned in Daniel...
  10. J

    Bible casts doubt on dating of Artaxerxes decree

    I see what you are saying, and can see that in some instances the numbers may be entirely symbolic, but I think that in the case of the 70 years prophesied by Jeremiah, Daniel's 70 Weeks, the 390 years and 40 years of Ezekiel 4 and, to within say a margin of error of maybe 30 days, the end-times...
  11. J

    Bible casts doubt on dating of Artaxerxes decree

    So you have the 70 years that 'the land remained desolate' (2 Chron 36:21) as beginning in 605 BC, which was the first occasion that Jews were taken into exile to Babylon during Nebuchadnezzar's reign. Since 2 Kings 25:21 and Jeremiah 52:27 both say, after describing the events of Jerusalem's...
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    Bible casts doubt on dating of Artaxerxes decree

    Hadn't realized that there were so many sources to support the dating of Artaxerxes' reign. So, even if the dating of Cyrus' conquest of Babylon happens to be 22/23 years out, it's possible that the current dating of Artaxerxes reign may still be correct. One point on Daniel 9:25- the Hebrew...
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    Bible casts doubt on dating of Artaxerxes decree

    So how many years are you allocating to the period between Solomon's death and the end of Zedekiah's reign?
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    Bible casts doubt on dating of Artaxerxes decree

    Hadn't thought of it that way. Thank you. I still think 2 Chronicles 36:21 reads as though it's describing historical events and that it's telling us that the land did actually lay desolate for 70 years, and that there were therefore 70 years between Jerusalem's destruction and the beginning of...
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    Rev 11- 1st 3.5 years of Final 7 not a time of peace, after all?

    Ok, so the Hebrew word 'chetsiy' that has been translated as 'middle' in Daniel 9:27 can also be translated as 'half', which means that, in addition to the verse being translated as saying that 'sacrifices ceased in the middle of the week', it can also be translated as saying that 'sacrifices...
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    Bible casts doubt on dating of Artaxerxes decree

    As many of you know, it is not clear from the Bible which events marked the start and end of the 1st 69 weeks of Daniel's 70 Weeks prophecy (Daniel 9:24-27), or even whether those 69 weeks lasted 483 actual years or 476 actual years. One current, popular interpretation of the prophecy suggests...
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    Rev 11- 1st 3.5 years of Final 7 not a time of peace, after all?

    I too think the 6th seal earthquake is an event that will happen near Day 2520. Regarding the placement of the 1290, 1335 and 2300 Day time periods, if, like me, you have them all starting on Day 220, that allows the ToD to cause sacrifices to cease during the 1290 and 1335 Day time periods...
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    Rev 11- 1st 3.5 years of Final 7 not a time of peace, after all?

    I accept that the transgression of desolation and the AoD are probably two separate things, but if your scenario of the 2520 Days does not allow for sacrifices to cease during the 1290 Days (which I'm not sure that it does), then I really think Daniel 12:11 is telling you that your scenario...