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  1. K

    Iglesia Ni Cristo Replies

    I will no longer post in this thread. Best regards to all with whom I've had pleasant conversation. Yes, even you, OldShepherd. Edited for bordering on breaking Rule 7 (no public disagreement with staff).
  2. K

    Jesus is fully God & fully man

    I will no longer post in this thread. Best regards to all with whom I've had pleasant conversation. Yes, even you, OldShepherd. Edited for bordering on violating Rule 7 (no public disagreement with staff).
  3. K

    Iglesia Ni Cristo Replies

    Irrelevant trinitarian nonscence! All your adolescent twisting of scripture won't magically bring a trinity into it. said, “Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:” That's right, you should listen to him. He said one Lord. Not three. If Jesus is indeed God, then he is the one...
  4. K

    Iglesia Ni Cristo Replies

    Okay, fine. Drawing a conclusion from the article, and all the relevent portions that you like, we find that the Christian trinity doctrine has roots in heretical Jewish sects under Hindu influence. What a great discovery you have made. Sure sheds some light on the pagan origins of the trinity.
  5. K

    Iglesia Ni Cristo Replies

    According to false trinitarian doctrine, God the Son who is God ascends to the right hand of God the Father who is God. God besides God. Either the trinitarians are wrong or the bible is lying. Dt.32:39 "See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me." Isa 44:8 Fear ye...
  6. K

    Jesus is fully God & fully man

    According to false trinitarian doctrine, God the Son who is God ascends to the right hand of God the Father who is God. God besides God. Either the trinitarians are wrong or the bible is lying. Dt.32:39 "See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me." Isa 44:8 Fear ye...
  7. K

    Iglesia Ni Cristo Replies

    During one of OldShepherds deceptions above, he posted selected posts from the Jewish Encyclopedia and came to false conclusions from them. He then went on to accuse me of doing the same. In response, I'll tell anyone interested what I stated earlier. Go read the link yourself to discern...
  8. K

    Iglesia Ni Cristo Replies

    Much you have said, yet nothing. Not one of your sources, or Greek 'professors' or anyone have found any evidence in the New Testament where there is a clear and distinct formulation of the doctrine of the trinity. Blow steam all you like with your twisted misquotes. The bible is clear on...
  9. K

    Iglesia Ni Cristo Replies

    Yes, a fine Christian emperor that did nothing to ensure he wouldn't be deified upon death, and did nothing to stop the custom. The simple truth, which you can't accept is that Constantine used Christianity to gain political influence in his troublesome empire. The doctrine of the twinity he...
  10. K

    Jesus is fully God & fully man

    drmmjr, a word of advice. Before you accept OldShepherd's selective quotes as fact, go read the links yourself. You'll find that the Zohar has gone through many 'changes' between the time of Christ and now. It's generally not considered a source of reliable information on Judaism. It's...
  11. K

    Iglesia Ni Cristo Replies

    That's a bad analogy. Water is still water in all it's forms. It doesn't become three waters in one. It's only in one state at a time, never liquid/solid/gas/plasma all at once. So, by your analogy, God left heaven, became a human then went back up to heaven and sat at the right hand of...
  12. K

    Iglesia Ni Cristo Replies

    He was deified by the Roman Senate after his death. http://www.roman-empire.net/decline/constantine.html If you want to read nonsense, just read what you post. The old testament has nothing on the trinity, despite your deception to the contrary. The New testament authors, mostly being...
  13. K

    Iglesia Ni Cristo Replies

    And who's day did Abraham rejoice in seeing? Your taking it out of context. Jesus is explaning that he is the Son of God, the messiah which was revealed to Abraham and was cause for Abraham to rejoice, which existed in God's plan from the very beginning. The translation of I AM (in caps) is...
  14. K

    What "the Word WAS God" means.

    I've seen your previous post and those points you bring up have been discussed elsewhere. It would be redundant and extensive to go through all of them. But to settle your conclusion, no. I don't agree that we have Jesus=God. I and others have brought up many points to the contrary and...
  15. K

    What "the Word WAS God" means.

    I see you've selected particular verses to support your view, but no matter. There are two ways of looking at this. One way is to assume a trinity from the start then make the text conform to a trinity view, which is what you have done. In this case, it would be a separate person of God...
  16. K

    What "the Word WAS God" means.

    More like explained away from a duality viewpoint. I don't buy into the trinity, nor a duality. Scriptures don't mention either. You think Jesus is the Father. So, the Father sent himself and then had himself killed and then resurrected himself to glorify himself and appease himself...
  17. K

    What "the Word WAS God" means.

    Temper, temper, Shepherd. I know that, you as a 'trinitarian' Christian are exempt from the general guidelines on these forums but you should limit your insults. It's not very Christian of you. While on the topic of 'asinine drivel' let me bring up a couple points for your enjoyment...
  18. K

    Iglesia Ni Cristo Replies

    >>John 8:58 -  Jesus is the 'I AM,' which is God. Given the context of the rest of the NT and Jesus's words elsewhere, this means that Jesus was predestined from before Abraham, just as everything else God does. >>John 14:6- through Jesus is the only way. Why would I just go through...
  19. K

    What "the Word WAS God" means.

    It's a poor analogy. Here is another analogy that fits better. I want you to meet my wife; Cindy, Mary and Emily. Cindy is the boss. Mary is a teacher. When needed, Cindy sends Mary out to teach. Emily is really the daughter of Cindy, she does nothing on her own, everything Emily says...
  20. K

    What "the Word WAS God" means.

    Out of previous drivel many of which is just a repeat of previously refuted statements, I have only one comment to add. With this statement, you have nullified Christianity, since many ideas in Christianity are contradicted in Judaism, and therefore, very obviously merely anti-Judaic...