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    THE TRUTH ABOUT THE STATE OF THE DEAD?

    LoveGodsWord: “If I wait, the grave is mine house” (Job 17:13 KJV). JL: [Job17:13 If I wait, the grave is mine house: I have made my bed in the darkness. 14 I have said to corruption, Thou art my father: to the worm, Thou art my mother, and my sister. 15 And where is now my hope? as for my...
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    THE TRUTH ABOUT THE STATE OF THE DEAD?

    LoveGodsWord: The Bible suggests that King David will be in God’s kingdom, but that he is in his grave now, where he awaits the resurrection. JL: [Act2:26 Therefore did my heart rejoice, and my tongue was glad; moreover also my flesh shall rest in hope: 27 Because thou wilt not leave my soul...
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    THE TRUTH ABOUT THE STATE OF THE DEAD?

    LoveGodsWord: A soul is a living being. A soul is always a combination of two things: body plus breath. A soul cannot exist unless body and breath are combined. God’s Word teaches that we are souls—not that we have souls. JL: Yes, there are two components to a natural human being, body=flesh...
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    THE TRUTH ABOUT THE STATE OF THE DEAD?

    LoveGodsWord: Then the dust will return to the earth as it was, and the spirit will return to God who gave it” (Ecclesiastes 12:7). JL: [Hb9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:]KJV The spirit, breath of life, of all human beings returns to God for their...
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    The Two Gospels of the New Testament 12.03.2019

    Guojing: I never said any of them were saved in the first place. Are you agreeing or disagreeing with my point that both the Roman Centurion and the Canaanite lady had to go through Israel to get their blessings? If you disagree that the Centurion helped to build a synagogue for Israel, and...
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    The Two Gospels of the New Testament 12.03.2019

    JL: In my previous post, I mistakenly thought you were referring to the Centurion Cornelius, Acts 10:1-48, who was the first Gentile saved, coming into the Way, later called Christian. The Centurion to which you are referring, Lk 7:1-10, was not saved but like the Canaanite lady received a...
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    The Two Gospels of the New Testament 12.03.2019

    Guojing: I never said I was uncomfortable with Ephesians 2:11-12. JL: Ture, I apologize, those are my words, I should have said, it seems to me you are uncomfortable with Eph 2:11-21. Guojing: Instead, I praised the Lord that I was born at this time, the but now time period where I can...
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    The Two Gospels of the New Testament 12.03.2019

    Guojing: We are now deviating from the main topic, which is the difference between the gospel of the circumcision and the gospel of the Uncircumcision. JL: Eph 2:11-21 is spot on topic. One can't be built on the foundation of the apostles if teaching a different gospel than the apostles, as...
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    The Two Gospels of the New Testament 12.03.2019

    JL: Why, who are the holy apostles and prophets? [Rv18:20 Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her.]KJV [Eph 2:16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby: 17 And came and...
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    The Two Gospels of the New Testament 12.03.2019

    Guojing: Yes, in the Body of Christ, there is neither Jew nor Gentile. But the gospel of the kingdom, that Jesus spoke about is not for the Body of Christ, its meant for Israel (Matthew 10:5-7). The mystery of the Body of Christ was not revealed by Jesus during the 4 gospels, it was until...
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    Jesus Says a Church Doesn't Need a Bishop

    JL: “[Hb13:7 Remember them which have the rule over you, who have spoken unto you the word of God: whose faith follow, considering the end of their conversation.]KJV” Dale: The NIV translation of the same verse simply says to “Remember your leaders.” Remember your leaders, who spoke the word...
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    The Two Gospels of the New Testament 12.03.2019

    Before I answer you above I would like for you to answer my previous post; JL: In 1Cor15:1-11 Paul eliminates a two gospel theory saying, whether I or they=apostles, so we preach. Guojing: He doesn't mean there is only one gospel. He meant that for the gentiles, they are to believe only the...
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    The Two Gospels of the New Testament 12.03.2019

    JL: In 1Cor15:1-11 Paul eliminates a two gospel theory saying, whether I or they=apostles, so we preach. Guojing: He doesn't mean there is only one gospel. He meant that for the gentiles, they are to believe only the gospel of the uncircumcision. In Galatians 2:7-9, this was agreed upon by...
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    The Two Gospels of the New Testament 12.03.2019

    JL: The simple answer salvation is a lifetime pilgrimage not a OSAS event. Guojing: Okay, so if you believe that, and you believe John also hold that view, that proves my point that there are fundamental differences between the 2 gospels, in the picture that I posted. JL: I am open to read any...
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    The Two Gospels of the New Testament 12.03.2019

    Dan Perez, posted: Hi and in John 20:31 and the Greek words YE MIGHT BELIEVE / PISTEVO ismin the AORIST NTENSE , ACTIVE VOICE and in the SUBJUSTIVE MOOD. The SUBJUCATIVE MOOD means they MIGHT BELIEVE or will BELIEVE and this versemis CONTROLLED by the SUBJUCATIVE MOOD ! JL: What is your point...
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    The Two Gospels of the New Testament 12.03.2019

    Dan Perez, post: Hi and in John 20:31 and the Greek words YE MIGHT BELIEVE / PISTEVO ismin the AORIST NTENSE , ACTIVE VOICE and in the SUBJUSTIVE MOOD . The SUBJUCATIVE MOOD means they MIGHT BELIEVE or will BELIEVE and this versemis CONTROLLED by the SUBJUCATIVE MOOD ! But...
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    The Two Gospels of the New Testament 12.03.2019

    Guojing: JL posted: [Jn20:31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.]KJV Guojing: So John, even after cross, did not preach 1 Cor 15:1-4 for salvation. Would you agree with that? JL: It all...
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    The Two Gospels of the New Testament 12.03.2019

    Guojing, post: Let's just take one particular verse and if you are keen, we can have a cordial discussion John 20:31 was post cross, Jesus has already rose from the dead. What did John write there about how one should believe about Christ, such that he might have eternal life? MCQ: Was it...
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    Jesus Says a Church Doesn't Need a Bishop

    [Hb13:7 Remember them which have the rule over you, who have spoken unto you the word of God: whose faith follow, considering the end of their conversation.]KJV [Hb13:17 Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account...
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    The Two Gospels of the New Testament 12.03.2019

    JL: Those books and verses prove nothing, if they do demonstrate it by posting some and how they teach two different gospels.