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Premillennialists are viewed as falling under two categories: historic and dispensational premillennialism. While historicists are more often premillennialists, there are some exceptions. This thread explores the difference between the two futurist views of historic and dispensational...

Considering that we are dealing with “The Revelation of Jesus Christ” in the last book of the Bible, the fifth seal can only be rendered as the last judgment of the Church. Christ is not the mediator of the Old Covenant (Hebrews 12:22-24). Futurists and Preterists are only fooling themselves...

Unlike preterists, futurists do not trivialize the NT passages that warn the New Covenant people about apostasy in “the last days.” Ice catalogs some of the passages in his article, The following is a list of the seven major passages that deal with the last days for the church: 1 Timothy 4:1-3...

The contradictions of futurism originate in views such as Ice’s rendering of Christ’s parables. The age of the tares growing alongside good seeds was prophesied in the OT and illustrated by Christ in parables. As a futurist, Ice has numerous contradictions or fallacies concerning Christ’s...

There is no return to the Old Covenant people when Christ returns. Christ mediates over the people of the New Covenant, which affirms Revelation pertains to the Church, not the Old Covenant people. The contradictions of futurism continue in their view of Christ’s parables when Ice writes, The...

It is impossible to argue against Christ’s two advents at this late date. Christ is wounded, and Israel is scattered at the first advent and gathered into the barn upon his future return, confirming premillennialism and historicism. In an article titled Consistent Biblical Futurism Thomas Ice...

The historical evidence that apostate Protestantism fostered the rise of secularism that enriched the merchants of the earth exposes it as the harlot Babylon and relegates the preterist and futurist false narratives as fuel fit for the fire (1 Corinthians 3:13). Not surprisingly, no one engaged...

In “Exposing the Seven Heads of Revelation”Christian Forums it was confirmed that in Revelation 17 the scarlet beast “was” before the sixth king and revives fully as the eighth. And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. And there...

The object of this thread is to further expose the untenable narration of Replacement Theology (RT) and Dispensationalism concerning what happened to Israel at the first advent. Both schools hold that Israel failed, only diverging in the results. The dispensationalists view the shepherds’...

The goals of this post are to relate the differences between non-dispensational futurism and dispensational futurism, and why neither can be justified by the Bible. In showing those differences and their deficiencies historicism is confirmed as the only eschatological model that avoids such...

Excerpt from Protestantism Revealed in the True Structuring of the Revelation found here. Hardy breaks with the traditional historicists’ interpretation of chapters 4-5, which they see as a first-century phenomenon, but then he reverts to their view that the seven seals represent phenomena...

Part 1 by Jerry Huerta Copyright 2022 The four horsemen of the apocalypse have evoked a great deal of interest and angst in Western society for thousands of years. Today, many believe they have already ridden forth, like the preterists, or have yet to appear, like the futurists. However, the...

Christ’s mediation can hardly be disputed as pertaining to the inter-advent era, our age. The previous work on the true structuring of the Revelation conveyed a correspondence between the struggles illustrated in the Parable of the Wheat and the Tares and Christ’s mediation of the seven churches...

Part I The object of this work affirms that the Old Testament (OT) prophets harmonize with the plan of salvation outlined by the Hebraic ceremonial calendar, which supports that the Revelation exemplifies the mediatorial work of Christ between the two advents. As the New Testament (NT) affirms...

Ninetieth-century theologian Ernst Wilhelm Hengstenberg wrote the book Christology of the Old Testament and dedicated a chapter to the book of Joel that has relevance in interpreting the Revelation. In this chapter Hengstenberg holds a parallel view with another theologian, Karen H. Jobes, who...

The Historicist’s notion that Revelation 4-5 represents Christ’s ascension to heaven at the first advent is untenable. It neglects that Christ is already illustrated mediating in the first compartment in Revelation 1. His mediation affirms that he has already inaugurated the heavenly sanctuary...

The foundational premise of preterism is the inappropriate use of temporal indicators, specifically those concerning imminence. This foundation fails to recognize the hermeneutical principle established in “classic prophecy,” commonly known as prophetic telescoping (PT). Dr. David R. Reagan...

In proclaiming liberty, our nation initially sought to restrain the fiery tendency of government by limiting the power of our central government. The framers sought the mannerisms of Christ and his lamb-like nature as opposed to the dragon-like coercive nature of centralized government...

The earliest historicists presumed that the structure of Revelation is the same as Daniel’s book or that the narration repeatedly backtracks. This pattern is what is known as recapitulation. They held the seven seals essentially cover the same period as the seven churches and the trumpets...

The true structuring of the Revelation portrays a linear narration starting at chapters 1 through 11 before it breaks that narration in chapter 12 to return in the time from whence it started. In essence, the book is intended to be folded in half. We ground our model on the Hebraic calendar and...